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marcwordsmith:
Hey, does anybody out there know anything about Catherine Freer Wilderness Therapy Programs in Oregon? Their website looks nice, but I'm wondering if anyone knows the scoop about them. My godson's parents are thinking of sending him there. They're asking ME for advice! But I don't know. I know that "tough love" has gotten a lot more clever in its advertising since the days of The Seed, and a friendly looking web site guarantees nothing. Any inside info would be mucho appreciated. Thanks in advance.

marcwordsmith:
Never mind . . . kids have died there. I think I have all the info I need to make my recommendation.

GregFL:
I wouldn't be able to recommend any of these tought love/synanon style confrontation treatment centers.  The whole premise of 'treatment' is based in urban legends, false premises, and a very mean spirited "we gotta change them or they will die" type modality.

I call bullshit on the entire teen help industry.

marcwordsmith:
Thanks, Greg. Yeah, I know. It's just that some of these places claim to be gentle and loving and sweet. It's hard to know if any of them really are. Now my godson's dad wants me to look at the web site of "Sagewalk." I am trying to convince him that sending his son away for any type of intensive "wilderness therapy" experience is likely to be a hardass abusive experience that will only hurt his kid, not help.

Anonymous:
How about sending him to a bonafide wilderness program that doesn't have any "therapy" involved, e.g., Outward Bound or similar?  First of all, these people know what they are doing out there as far as survival, inherent dangers of hypothermia and how to recognize it, etc. and they are not going to be taking any stupid chances regardless of anybody's "attitude."  Second of all, the pluses of being out there in the elements and doing it on your own steam that convey a sense of accomplishment in the kid are not disguised as being anything different than what they are.  They may even have some programs where parent + kid go together?

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