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US Urges Scientists to Block Sunlight:We Are Sooooo Screwed

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Antigen:

--- Quote from: ""Dr Phil"" ---I think disney movies and cartoons and captain planet have a lot to do with this. And the fact that is the sole interaction human beings have with their world around them. They havent experienced an earth who wants nothing more to kill them, and torture them. They know an earth we dominate. And now they want to give that up... I dont get it??? Your ancestors would cry !
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Well, this is how we monkeys keep the other monkeys in check. Whatever the agenda or purpose that drives it, you can count on a contingent of other monkeys to try and poke holes in it. That ensures some bit of constraint and moderation.

I agree with you about the Disney propaganda, though. Even as a kid Disney World freaked me out a little. I part ways with you, though, on the idea that all of human kind has been fearful and at war with nature for all of our existence. There's just too much good art and sign of artful living by people who have had a pretty comfortable bargain w/ the old lady down through the ages. Remember that the victors get to write the history. Truth is, at the time when Europeans first started turning up as castaways on our shores, the local people's bows were more efficient and more accurate than the "fire sticks" these hapless refugees had to offer.

Nihilanthic:
I just thought I'd mention Mars and Neptune have been found to be warming up c/o the sun.

So, at least we're going for the right culprit here  :rofl:

Anonymous:
the earth has not spent the last 1000000 years trying to destroy humankind. if that was true we would not be here right now, nor would any other species. life and survival is not a competition, something which both darwinists and creationists miss, and it is a very, very crucial point. life is about COOPERATION. the survival of our species depends on our ability to cooperate with nature, not destroy it. Survival of the human race has long been about cooperation. It's about human's cooperation with say, corn to make food, or horses for transport, or medicinal plants for medicine. the reason we are where we are today is because we have learned to cooperate with each other and with other species, we learned to utilize seeds, grow crops, raise animals, and even use the planet's natural resources for our own benifit, just as any other species does. somewhere along the line humans lost their humility and declared themselves gods of this planet. we belive we can change things so that only we, and only what we like and what is comfortable will be allowed to survive. we tear up the land and build houses upon houses without thinking about what other species were living there before. what makes you think that humans are so superior that we have the right to be judge, jury and executioner of ever other species? we tear up our land, but when the land is no longer able to support crops and animals, or rainforests for that matter, the planet is unable to support us. which is why we should learn to preserve and work WITH the ecosystem, not against it. we have to raise our kids differently than we were raised.

wade davis once wrote something which really stuck with me. A boy who grows up beliving a mountain is a mound of inert rock ready to be mined, he will likely grow up to do just that. he wont see anything special in that mountain, other than the money he can make off of it. A boy who grows up beliveing that that mountain countains a spirit, just as any other mountain, and this spirit gives life, then the boy will grow up to respect that mountain, to love it, regardless of how useless it he thinks it is, because he knows there is more to that mountain than he could ever understand; that it is there for a reason.

now, do we need to mine every metaphorical "mountain", or cant we just be satisfied with the gift of life in of itself? maybe we need to look at ourselves, at our beliefs, our way of life, and think, "what got us here? is this really so great, does materialism really make you happy? and where are we headed, if we continue the way we do?" if we dont sit down and look at ourselves now, before we know it every "mountain" will be mined and we will have nothing, no gold, no oil, no food even. all the riches in the world cannot buy the survival of the human race, only cooperation.  

WE ARE HERE BECAUSE OF THE EARTH, NOT DESPITE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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