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try another castle:

--- Quote from: ""Charly"" ---Are you serious?  Was he ever accused of that?  Any charges filed?
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Of course not! Were any of the sexually predatory staff who worked at CEDU ever charged with anything?

Besides, it's soooo easy to blur the lines when you have all this disgusting forced affection going on. Sure, I may not fuck you, or cross any blatant line like grinding uglies, but maybe I'll take you aside and have a snuggle fest with you all to myself, where no one can see us.

Come ON Karen!

Charly:
I can completely see that happening.

try another castle:

--- Quote from: ""TS Waygookin"" ---
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--- Quote ---Re: Tim Brace Consensus seems to be that he was very mild at Carlbrook and not very confrontational- more inclined to weep than to yell.
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I guess that consensus didn't bother to mention his predisposition for inviting boys up into his office privately for some more "intimate" smooshing? Nothing blatant or concrete enough to give a student adequate evidence for filing charges... just nice, no-boundaries, incredibly uncomfortable affection... in his office... with the door closed.
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I definitely need to ask my brother about this dude.
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Tim was already gone by the time your brother got there. Doug Kim-Brown was the headmaster then.

psy:
Let's meet Tim Brace everybody:


--- Quote ---Tim Brace, B.A., M.C. Dean of Students Mr. Brace has truly inspired a generation of students through his vision, innovation and educational leadership. During his distinguished career over the past 25 years, he has served as Headmaster or Executive Director at several secondary boarding schools, including Mt. Bachelor Academy in Oregon and the Academy at Swift River in Massachusetts. With a wealth of knowledge and experience in working with young people and their families that is virtually unmatched, Mr. Brace holds a Bachelor of Arts from the United States Naval Academy and a Master of Counseling from Arizona State University.
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Oddly it does not mention that he worked at RMA for 13 years

--- Quote ---Tim has been with the CEDU Schools for 13 years, serving as Headmaster both at CEDU and Rocky Mountain Academy in north Idaho.
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SO.  RMA, ASR..

I'm starting to sense a pattern...  What was i saying about similar career paths?

He is also a board member of Natsap
" Tim Brace, Aspen Youth Services, California, 3-year term"

But TSW is right.  let's stick to the topic in hand.  ask your son what kinds of things were talked about in group.  were they personal?  were there confrontations?  how harsh was it?

Charly:
To TSW's Question-

I do not support Carlbrook or any teen help program with the exception of Second Nature, which I truly believe is an outstanding program with excellent ownership and staff. (I am open to learning otherwise)

I believe Carlbrook served a purpose for my son and our family. Much of this success was simply due to a fortuitous combination of factors unrelated to the therapeutic structure of Carlbrook.  At the time we were connected to the program (9 months) there were some problems related to the newness of the program and too much adherence to stuffing all the round pegs in the square holes.

I don't feel competent to recommend Carlbrook to anyone, since I am not a psychologist. I now am questioning the CEDU model and if the groups were conducted in this manner, there is a strong likelihood for abuse and coercion. This does not HAVE to be the case, but I simply don't know how good the current staff is at conducting proper group therapy.  

What bothered me the most?  Probably the lack of attention to individual needs and differences. Again-the round pegs thing. My son could have benefitted from some things (like being permitted to train for his sport) that could have completely made his experience different. This may seem like a minor thing, but if you understood his needs, which I hit them over the head with over and over, it was a big factor in his resistance there.  It is hard to strike a balance between valuing the parents input (after all, we are the ones who screwed up the raising of these kids in the first place) and holding to the line of "you gave us your kids, now trust us without interfering."

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