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Charly:
Groups--   I think twice a week.  Maybe 3 times.  The groups were coed and I seem to recall that you could "call" someone to be in your group.  So-if you wanted to confront someone or yell at them, you requested a group with them.  This was awhile ago, but I think that's how it worked. Then the kid who was "invited" got to sit there and get shit.
There were some good staff who led better groups than others.  My son particularly objected to one senior staff- he hated me and my son and took it out on my son.

Dr Phil:
If three people were sitting around with my mom trying to piece together an experience I had based on the bits and pieces that I chose to tell her.. .it would be amusing indeed. This is a carlbrook thread, with no kids posting here that ever went to carlbrook. Its like trying to discuss programs with the who. Since nobody has experienced it, everything is possible.. everything up for grabs. I remember a few years ago when I first found this forum wwasps didnt have its own forum or anything like that and I just read. because it was mostly theoretical talk from program parents.. not a whole lot of kids posting on the net about their experience... then or now. as the stories started to build that theoretical talk disappeared because there were finally some facts to work with. my point is that this argument can go in a million ways, but it doesnt change the facts and nthe truth is none of us know them.

If you asked my parent about my program experience ..i cant tell you how wrong of a source that would be. i would hate you for doing that, because it would obscure the debate with their conjecture and brainwashing and all that good stuff.

Anne Bonney:

--- Quote from: ""Some Guest :wink: "" ---You ask how carlbrook could be bad for a kid? What if they embrace those social norms and when they get home they apply it to their friends and family? Because they will, it will be ingrained in them until they take the time to deprogram themsleves of that bull crap. You might notice a program vs program undertone to a lot of duscussion here thats because they divide the kids. Some buy into it and embrace it, others fight it and see it for what it is like your son. But it seems to me you agree your son was correct in misbehaving in these ways? Am I correct in that, or would you prefered he learned the ethics of ratting out friends to benefit yourself, etc? Most parents see these aspects of program as a good thing, and pay good money for it. They arent on the phone all day long criticizing the program, they are doing the opposite. Then theres ones like Sue Scheff who take it to a whole new level and build a little empire based on their experience as a program parent and fall in love with the whole scheme..
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Charly:
I only feel qualified to talk about some of this because Psy and I were talking over Christmas when my son was right next to me so I could actually ask him.  He is far enough removed from it that I think I got pretty accurate answers.  He's not the most verbal person on the subject, though.

psy:

--- Quote from: ""Charly"" ---Groups--   I think twice a week.  Maybe 3 times.  The groups were coed and I seem to recall that you could "call" someone to be in your group.
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ask your kid for details on that.  It sounds like a firing squad.


--- Quote ---So-if you wanted to confront someone or yell at them, you requested a group with them.
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i should really read the whole post before responding. :lol:


--- Quote ---This was awhile ago, but I think that's how it worked. Then the kid who was "invited" got to sit there and get shit.
There were some good staff who led better groups than others.  My son particularly objected to one senior staff- he hated me and my son and took it out on my son.
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How so?  Why didn't your son like him?

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