Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Facility Question and Answers
The Carlbrook thread
cooltherapy:
I'll respond to your lingo question - I'm just going to list the words I recognize and then add a few :D
Older/Younger Students
Side Conversation
Let's Move On
Where y'at? (I later found a baby video of myself screaming this phrase... haunting, really)
Running Anger ('your' was cut out, apparently)
Thinking
In your shit
Peer Group
Teams
Big/Little Brother/Sister
Smooshing (yeck)
Going Fast
Safety
Crews
Last Light (no first light, for us)
Dyads
Projecting
Bioenergetics
Games
Bans - you mentioned these but they weren't on your list.
Disclosures - similar to your scum
Standards - our rules
Out of Standard - when someone is breaking a rule they are "out of standard" this was the most common term around campus
Honor List - like your dirt list
Holding Someone in Standard
"Plum, Square, and Level"
"Walking the road" - there is a long road at Carlbrook that leads into town - when a student decides to leave, they generally just take a stroll down the road until they are picked up and escorted back to the wilderness program "the woods"
Suspension - sitting in a room, looking straight ahead (sometimes you are able to attend class, sometimes not) from 8am to 10pm everyday. You may not speak other than to ask to use the restroom or get water. All movements, comments, or any other issues are written down by moniters and turned into the head of the school.
Program - lesser form of suspension
Action Plan - I guess this is the lightest form of punishment, bans with many students, writing assignments, no fun time
Stump - a tree is cut down and a very out of standard student is given a shovel and is made to dig the stump out of the ground
Interesting that you should mention Tim Brace... what did you think of him? He's still there...
I think the reason that you're not hearing from more Carlbrook students is because of the "bond" that they feel with the staff. By coming onto the websites and stating information, they are essentially backstabbing. I imagine that at some point I will identify myself but only having been out for a year, I am not ready to be "disowned" by the community. Sadly, this has happened with a few students.
try another castle:
bans is on the list. it's easy to miss, because I didn't alphabetize it, instead trying to keep them categorically close together.
http://fornits.com/wiki/index.php/CEDU_lingo#Bans
we had disclosures, too. That was the primary term, I believe. The only reason I remember scum is because I read it in my full-time journal.
standards=agreements
out of standard=out of agreement
holding someone in standard = pulling them up
I love how these terms change between the clones, as if they are afraid someone is going to catch on to how incredibly full of shit they are.
As for Tim? I thought he was an idiot. I "learned" to like him, via stockholm syndrome, I suppose, but my first impression of him was that he was a melodramatic tweaked-out freak with the social skills of a retarded monkey fetus.
I remember the first monday house meeting I went to, I couldn't stand him from the get go. He mentions something about his wife, and says "That's the woman I'm fucking, and you're not." Which everyone thought was so hysterical, but I just kind of thought was lame.
There were lots of different kinds of staff at CEDU. There were the heavies, like Caroline and Sharon, who were just absolutely brutal. Then you had wannabe heavies and hippie rejects like Vicki Jones, weird, uncategorized, creepy man-children like Joe Sweeney, general dickheads like Randy Eide, Patrick Stambusky (he started monarch), Steve Rookey (also now at monarch), and Bruce Wilson, and then you had these kind of loser milquetoast melodrama staff like Rea and Tim, who, for some reason, held a lot of sway at the school, but you never knew exactly why. Tim was known for being able to work everyone up into a weepy mess in the shortest amount of time, especially during warm-ups and raps.
I remember one warm up where they were playing that stupid song from an american tail, "somewhere out there" (and I was already a Bluth studios hater, and thought that movie sucked) and people were just sobbing like crazy. I remember him talking about the mouse, too. That was one warm up I definitely didn't cry in, even though I was totally brainwashed, simply because I hated that movie so much. (My animator side asserted itself, I suppose. "I don't care how brainwashed you are, this movie sucked, the story sucked, the characters sucked, and there is no way in hell you are going to cry to it.")
Seriously, did Bluth Studios ever do anything decent besides "The Secret of NIMH?"
--- Quote ---I am not ready to be "disowned" by the community. Sadly, this has happened with a few students.
--- End quote ---
What community are you referring to? Is there a post-carlbrook community, or is it simply friends keeping in touch with one another?
cooltherapy:
hehe - Tim is just the same... except... I would imagine probably not fucking his wife anymore. He isn't very nice to her!
Everyone LOVED Tim Brace but I had and still have absolutely no respect for the man. I have never hated anyone so much. It is impossible to put into words how I feel about him.
He is the headmaster at Carlbrook. He basically ignores the girls and is crazy over the boys. He picks his favorites and "smooshes" with them but it looks a little more like sexual tension building up in his life to me.
He is an evil man.
cooltherapy:
Whoops - missed the end of your entry -
the community - ah... I have a few friends from the school but they wouldn't care - but if you turn your back on Carlbrook you are no longer allowed to write letters to current students, speak to staff, etc. They cut you off and basically pretend that you never went there. This recently happened to another graduate that I know...
they have instilled a new post-grad program in which one of the advisors calls you once a week to check up... for a year... yes, I'm serious - a year. Also, mandatory therapy once a week for... well forever I guess.
Not in therapy - but they don't have to know that.
try another castle:
--- Quote ---He is the headmaster at Carlbrook. He basically ignores the girls and is crazy over the boys.
--- End quote ---
You have no idea how right on you are about that. I had a few survivors confide in me about some rather inappropriate things Tim did with them... all male.
At RMA, Tim would apparently like to bring boys into his office for personal, private, one-on-one smooshing sessions. According to what one person told me, it never got illegal or blatant. Just really really fucking creepy, like smooshing always was.
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what the whole Tim fan club thing was, either, cause we had it too. I honestly can't remember if I ever got on board with it. I suppose I grew to like him well enough. I knew I was kinda bummed when he left and Doug became headmaster. But my first impression of him, when my brain was the least clouded by the program, was that he seemed like one of those overzealous, idiotic camp counselors who had maybe half of the intelligence as an adult that I did at 16.
--- Quote from: ""cooltherapy"" ---Whoops - missed the end of your entry -
the community - ah... I have a few friends from the school but they wouldn't care - but if you turn your back on Carlbrook you are no longer allowed to write letters to current students, speak to staff, etc. They cut you off and basically pretend that you never went there. This recently happened to another graduate that I know...
they have instilled a new post-grad program in which one of the advisors calls you once a week to check up... for a year... yes, I'm serious - a year. Also, mandatory therapy once a week for... well forever I guess.
Not in therapy - but they don't have to know that.
--- End quote ---
That's fucking hideous.
I suppose if I were you, I would probably write one final letter to your friends still at Carlbrook, before any potential "disownage" happens, and have it say something like "See you on the outside. It's much brighter here." Include your most up-to-date contact information, say fuck it. Wash your hands of the whole thing, move on, and if they contact you when they get out, groovy. Worse comes to worse, you can track down their parents.
As for not being able to speak to staff.... ppppfffffff. Is that a threat or a promise?
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