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From One Cult To Another...

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Anonymous:
Mike,

  I strive to be non-linear.  Linear is one step down from L7.  Strive for sphereness and listen to some Monk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_%28slang%29.

 Always remember the admonition of Sam the Sham: "don't be no L7"

Emil

Ursus:

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negated previously avowed sentiments and allegiances on her part towards me. And you are right, I shouldn't have taken it personally


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  Ursus, I take it that you knew Vanda post hyde "runnaway" and she agreed with you in your anti - hyde views.  Ever list to the Electric Prunes?  The piece from the mass in F minor that was in Easy Rider was my favorite.  I have this on vinyl:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Release_of_An_Oath

I also have wood heat, Vanda is wrong on both the fire and vinyl question.
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Check this out:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp ... id=1574789

Prunes on CD in 12 days.  Too much to dream. Co - incidence?
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Emil (?) - I didn't listen to the ElecPrunes that much, but that doesn't mean anything other than I haven't gotten to them yet!    :lol:   I have somewhat electic tastes.  The CD that has been currently living in my player of late is Blaine L. Reininger's 'Night Air 2' (BLR formerly of TuxedoMoon)... It is sometimes (erroneously, IMO) described as a sequel to (the first) Night Air, but it really is more of a compilation of sorts of some of his previous material.  Many of the tracks were used in a soundtrack or soundtracks of one or more films by Nicholas Triandafyllidis.  I have not seen any of the latter's films, but the music is quite cinematic, which is something I rather like...

Ursus:

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I regretted my strong words upon posting, but what can you do: verba volant scripta manent. I thank you for setting me straight. I'm quick to confront, partly because of the circumstances of my upbringing, partly because I'm living in a very tough neighborhood. I try to direct my challenges to the right address (e.g., 616 High St.), but sometimes I get it wrong. Although you may not know it, I've always attached great value to your posts which, like the one about Michelle, demonstrate empathy and an identification with what is good in people. I value the posts of Emil, too, which are funny, down to earth, and on occasion --- but this is really rare --- lucid. In fact, through the welter of complementary personalities on this board a fairly well-rounded picture of Hyde is emerging. That is something that I would not want the occasional challenge to jeopardize.

Mike
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Hey Mike, Thanks for your kind and insightful words.  I do very much value your posts as well, as I do Emil's!  No worries re. occasional challenges; life is too short.

Did you know that was Michelle straining for the finish line in that old B&W photo depicted in last fall's Alumni newsletter?  (I think that is what it's called, at any rate, it is available from the school site online.).  I believe that might be the fall of 1975, if I am not mistaken... Urs

Anonymous:

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--- Quote from: ""Mike"" ---I've reached an age where I have begun researching my past. The Internet makes that possible. I am glad that I discovered this site and had the opportunity to analyze what are arguably the two strangest years of my life. On the other hand, while I am not discounting the painful experiences of others, I do not feel that my experience left any lasting damage. So when you, Ursus, go on record as saying that you are STILL recovering from your Hyde experience, I am bowled over. What could possibly have been so bad? At first, I admit, I thought that you were pathologically vulnerable. Now I'm beginning to wonder if you are not also pathologically vindictive. Forgive me for being so frank, but the explanation was in order.

I still don't understand the relevance of your proverb. Did you really think I was cursing you?

Mike
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I am not Ursus, but want to point something out to you Mike.  It is obvious to me that Ursus is bitter towards Hyde because he has not had closure.  I totally relate to this.  I am not sure I would use the word "vindictive" to describe someone who is angry and bitter.  True that many times we are angry at ourselves for various reasons like the fact I wish I would have stood up to those scums at Hyde. I am angry at myself that I participated in bullying my classmates by getting caught up in the whole system.  We were kids and we were truly brainwashed and for that some of us are angry at ourselves that we succumbed to this.  Rather than admonishing Ursus, I believe he needs closure.

Ursus, would it not help to talk to Gary Eskow who is doing an article on Hyde?  Would you not feel better knowing that you have helped prevent another child from going through what you and I have?  I don't know you, but it always helps me to feel like I have done all I could to "right a wrong."  This is not vindictive, it is helping others. I can't imagine looking the other way knowing that many more kids will be traumatized at Hyde when I could have helped to avoid this.  It might be just what you need Ursus.
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Thank you, kind Guest, for your words of validation.  You have no idea how much they mean to me.  We really should be sticking together in all this, instead of ripping each other apart.

And I am sorry, Mike, if I seemed at all harsh re. your inserting text into my quote.  I am sure it was inadvertant.

You are right, kind Guest, for pointing out that I need closure.  It is very difficult to get closure when Hyde is not publically recognized for what it is.  Even close friends, not to mention my immediate family, can not possibly understand.  Save for this board, I feel so very much alone in this oh too private hell...
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Ursus, any chance of my being able to email you privately? Can you give yourself an email address on yahoo or another place so that I can contact you? BTW, I am the "kind guest."

Ursus:

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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I am not Ursus, but want to point something out to you Mike.  It is obvious to me that Ursus is bitter towards Hyde because he has not had closure.  I totally relate to this.  I am not sure I would use the word "vindictive" to describe someone who is angry and bitter.  True that many times we are angry at ourselves for various reasons like the fact I wish I would have stood up to those scums at Hyde. I am angry at myself that I participated in bullying my classmates by getting caught up in the whole system.  We were kids and we were truly brainwashed and for that some of us are angry at ourselves that we succumbed to this.  Rather than admonishing Ursus, I believe he needs closure.

Ursus, would it not help to talk to Gary Eskow who is doing an article on Hyde?  Would you not feel better knowing that you have helped prevent another child from going through what you and I have?  I don't know you, but it always helps me to feel like I have done all I could to "right a wrong."  This is not vindictive, it is helping others. I can't imagine looking the other way knowing that many more kids will be traumatized at Hyde when I could have helped to avoid this.  It might be just what you need Ursus.
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Thank you, kind Guest, for your words of validation.  You have no idea how much they mean to me.  We really should be sticking together in all this, instead of ripping each other apart.

And I am sorry, Mike, if I seemed at all harsh re. your inserting text into my quote.  I am sure it was inadvertent.

You are right, kind Guest, for pointing out that I need closure.  It is very difficult to get closure when Hyde is not publicly recognized for what it is.  Even close friends, not to mention my immediate family, can not possibly understand.  Save for this board, I feel so very much alone in this oh too private hell...
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Ursus, any chance of my being able to email you privately? Can you give yourself an email address on yahoo or another place so that I can contact you? BTW, I am the "kind guest."
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Take the leap to avatar??   ::birthday::

If I remember correctly, I think roughly one third of the members on this forum have zero posts.  While some of those are actually there for no good reason, i.e., they have junk websites attached that they (not Fornits) hope you'll visit, most of those zero-post members are probably people who registered for the primary purpose of private mailing someone.

When you register, here is the information that is asked of you:  username (your posting ID), email address, password, confirm password.  Everything else is optional.  The site does not retain the password, although the association of username and email address is fixed, you will need to send a confirmation reply back at some point...

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