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[Oz girl]

So last night it was too hot to sleep in my crappy flat so I buggered off to my sisters cool climate controlled home. i still could not sleep so I turned on the telly and basked in channel surfing the million channels she has with her foxtel subscription. Seriously people it is a whole delightful world of shit.

But I digress. As i was Flipping through i came across some TV "drama" about one of these schools. It had a very young Haden Christensen in it. it all looked quite warm and fuzzy. I think it was called High ground or High mountain or some such. Did anyone watch this when it was on in the US? has anyone heard of it?

[mbnh31782]

i have not heard of it personally but here is the imdb link to the show's premise and summary

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0199421/

aparrently it only went on for one season

[Anonymous]

::puke::

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... 30BE2B3964 is a full episode list.

Scrolled a bit through episode 1. Fucking unwatchable!

Who else wants to jump on IMDB and vote this bitch way down?

[Anonymous]

It's not just parents who have a romantic view of what these places are really like.

If they made a show about the reality no network would ever touch it, it would have to be sold to horror film companies probably.

[mbnh31782]

i googled both producers names... it seems both of them have an obsession with "teen" shows.... mostly drama and some based off of "reality"

[FLCLcowdude]

Makes me sick...

[Nihilanthic]

i googled both producers names... it seems both of them have an obsession with "teen" shows.... mostly drama and some based off of "reality"

I wonder how many people seem to feed off of constant drama, breakdowns, and epiphanies regarding kids in a context of non-consent?

Oh, well, that would probably be every watcher of Oprah, Dr. Phil, and 90% of program staff, right?

[mbnh31782]

http://community.livejournal.com/cliffhangers/?skip=20

here are more episodes in downloadable form on this live journal site.... i watched episode 1 and agree its a terrible show... there are definitely inconsistencies to a real program... a real program wouldnt send these kids home or away from the program if they ran only once.   with some programs it takes forever to even get them to agree to send the kid away.

[Deborah]

... while visions of sugar plums danced in their heads.

Who fabricated this deceptive, fantasy promo bullshit?
Mt Horizon... so which TBS is this supposed to be based on? Mt Bachelor?  Aspen? You got two alchies in recovery on a mission to 'save' kids. Rakin in around $9 mill a year and facing foreclosure?

I just watched through episode 6, and I want to know....

Where's the raps, propheets, fall outs, emotional breakdowns and love bombing, medical neglect, restraints, censored communication, crap food, 4 minute showers, hazing, PT, scrubbing dumpster with a toothbrush, moving rocks in buckets, and I haven't heard the word "manipulation" once.

Makeup, girls in boys dorm, free time to just hang out, where's the austere punishment for holding hands, 6 month bans?

When do we get to see Haden re-enact his sexual activities with his step-mom who seduced him, then convinced dad to ship him to TBS.

Girl with Falcon status free to go to town (25 miles away), finishes up her work at the ol folks home and ventures into a bar for a little dancing, arrives late- consequence- looses town privledges for two weeks. Yeh, right.

Addressing the contraband issue- girl gets cigarettes from an outside delivery person.... not staff of course.

Addressing suicide.... kid suicides his first day there. Counselor finds him by the lake past curfew, kid hasn't spoken to anyone all day but appears to be willing. Rather than listen, she reiterates the 'rule' and sends him to his cabin telling him he can talk 'tomorrow'. Tomorrow doesn't come. He suicides on drugs he'd rolled up in a tube of toothpaste, which she missed on intake. Program off the hook cause records didn't indicate previous suicide attempts. Shrink wanted kid to go to psych hospital, dad wanted him in the TBS and concealed the previous attempts. Uh, right.

Same incompetent staff is out hiking with 8 kids (over the 1:3 ratio). A girl says she can't go on. Staff assigns a 'trusted' peer to take her back, group carries on up the mountain. (Another violation) Girl says she's in too much pain to walk, peer timer leaves her sitting on the trail and goes to camp for help, girl wonders off, falls down a hill and then into a sink hole. Spends the night down there with the remains of another unfortunate soul. Search and rescue isn't called until the next morning.

Do these fucks really believe the only way for kids to 'heal' is by putting in life threatening situations?

And those kids chopping wood as punishment... regs state they're supposed to be supervised while using knives, hatchets, etc, not left alone.

The only realistic thing about this show is their depiction of the pathetic parents who send their kids to these places.

As an old timer tells the newbie, "Everybody gave up on you. Parents, teachers, everybody. Walk away from here and you'll loose everything you've got."

[mbnh31782]

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?u ... s66&page=1

youtube link to most if not all episodes.. they;re all out of order so you have to locate the one you want to watch then click it

[Deborah]

This is a better list. Took me a while to find it.
http://www.youtube.com/profile_play_lis ... mistress66

[AtomicAnt]

As long as we're talking TV, I saw this movie on cable.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0252684/

Wasn't quite sure what to make of it.

[Deborah]

You Fornits boys are always schemin how to get a mole inside a program. You gotta watch episode 15 of this program when a journalist slips in as a teen.
Go here and click on "Play all videos" on the right. 16 parts-  1-10 plays automatically, 11-16, you'll have to click individually.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... 967502A2C4

[Deborah]

I found some previous discussion about Higher Ground, including this interview of Lando with the Osmonds.

http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=53743#53743
In an interview with Joe Lando :

Marie Osmond: Now you really enjoy -- the show Higher Ground -- what is it based on?

Joe Lando: It?s based on schools that really exist all around the world, um kind of an outward bound program. My character?s name is Peter Scarbrow, he?s a recovering addict, seven years sober and the show picks up seven years into his sobriety while he?s running the school of 150 kids, all high risk teens, kids who have had quite a few problems, incest, and it?s set in the Pacific Northwest, beautiful scenery ...

Marie: And like you say, there are camps like this all over ...

Joe: All over - we visited ---

Marie: We have a clip from the show.

Joe: Great.

Marie: Do I want you to set it up or shall we just watch it?

Joe: I think the clip will explain it.

Donny Osmond: Okay here we go.

(Shows clip of Peter telling Scott the rules of Mt. Horizon from the first episode ?no drugs, no sex, no inappropriate touching and there?s no violence.?)

Donny: That?s a very interesting concept.

Joe: These girls are going to love that actor in that scene too, Hayden Christensen, he?s just a wonderful actor and a really good guy and I think he?s going to be somebody, somebody big.

Donny: A good buddy of mine, Rob Dias, does this very thing that you?re doing. He has a school for troubled teens, there?s quite a few of them around the country.

Joe: We visited a few in Northern Idaho and a few around here in Southern California. [must be CEDU]

Marie: Do you base your stories off of true stories?

Joe: All the kids are real stories and we?ve taken a license with what goes on from day to day obviously, but they are all based on real people. My character?s just a collection of people who we met.

Marie: So you have characters come and go and all that kind of thing?

Joe: Well, there?s 150 students and we really center our stories on 6 or 7 of them, Cliffhangers they're called, that?s the group.
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More on Rob & Sherri Dias
Diamond Ranch Academy- Hurricane, Utah
http://www.caring4youth.org/348.html
Survivor story: http://www.heal-online.org/diamond.htm

Sojourn Wilderness Program
Web Address: www.internet-connect.com/sunhawk
Contact: Rob Dias
Phone: (800) 214-3878
Email:
Program Type: Wilderness Programs
Gender Type: coed
State: Utah
Description of Program:
Residential wilderness treatment program
http://www.mytroubledteen.com/329.html

Link no longer works, but was Exec Director for Melaleuca MLM
http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=16226#16226
The ST article at that link has also been removed

[hanzomon4]

Another night that stands out, was a night when an abusive, and in my personal opinion mentally unstable wilderness staff member named Brad decided to make us do "calisthenics" until every last one of us was breaking down crying. That in itself wasn't out of the ordinary, but this round, every time one of the poor students in our group who suffered from terrets syndrome[/b] uncontrollably uttered an obscenity, Brad would make us keep going and going until we were literally screaming in pain, our muscles locking up. Kids were getting sick, passing out, falling over crying and begging for mercy.

Even though it's spelled wrong I know what he means, I have Tourette's Syndrome and I can't imagine any sane parent sending a kid to a program with this condition...