Requesting Parents' Assessment of Hyde School

[gary eskow]

Gary,

Don't you have anything better to d?.  Why don't you build a house in New Orleans or go serve food in a soup kitchen.  I think this is so self serving; you've finally found a small group of people who "kinda" beleive what you're saying and you milking it for all it's worth.  Maybe if everyone chipped in $100, you could use it to do some real good.

Sheesh

Sheesh; Thanks for your suggestions.  You seem to have positive feelings about Hyde.  That's good!  Would you be interested in being interviewed for the piece I plan on writing? Without a fair and balanced perspective there would be no point in the exercise. Again, thanks for your thoughts on how I might be of service to others.

Gary

[Anonymous]

Gary,

Don't you have anything better to d?.  Why don't you build a house in New Orleans or go serve food in a soup kitchen.  I think this is so self serving; you've finally found a small group of people who "kinda" beleive what you're saying and you milking it for all it's worth.  Maybe if everyone chipped in $100, you could use it to do some real good.

Sheesh

Gary,

  You have aroused the ire of the Hyde list watcher.  Watch out

[Anonymous]

Gary, I don't think it is necessary to put your attorney on retainer. All that one would have to do is make a phone call to him or another one to ask if there would be any legal ramifications of writing a true and accurate story. I don't see how you could have a problem legally when there are writers who make a living off of writing stories about the rich and famous that are very disparaging.

I, for one, still remain unconvinced that there may not be legal ramifications since I filled a lawsuit against Hyde in the past, and settled.  I settled against my better judgement, and certainly against my psche, but so be it.  It certainly did not resolve what happened to me there.

[gary eskow]

Gary, I don't think it is necessary to put your attorney on retainer. All that one would have to do is make a phone call to him or another one to ask if there would be any legal ramifications of writing a true and accurate story. I don't see how you could have a problem legally when there are writers who make a living off of writing stories about the rich and famous that are very disparaging.

I, for one, still remain unconvinced that there may not be legal ramifications since I filled a lawsuit against Hyde in the past, and settled.  I settled against my better judgement, and certainly against my psche, but so be it.  It certainly did not resolve what happened to me there.

I'm not worried about myself--- however, I won't be writing only as a journalist, but as a former participant. The document I signed with Hyde protects my right of free speech.  Interesting possibility:
background data from those who settled with Hyde but are not comfortable having their stories made public.

[gary eskow]

Gary,

Don't you have anything better to d?. Why don't you build a house in New Orleans or go serve food in a soup kitchen. I think this is so self serving; you've finally found a small group of people who "kinda" beleive what you're saying and you milking it for all it's worth. Maybe if everyone chipped in $100, you could use it to do some real good.

Sheesh

Sheesh;

  Could you please tell us a bit about yourself?  Are you a current or former student? Somehow, you don't strike me as a parent.
Did you enjoy a positive experience at Hyde?  Great!  What's the best thing about the school?  How has the education you received impacted your life?  Did you internalize the values that Hyde espouses, and have they become an integral part of your pattern of behavior?  Do you believe that people have an obligation to point out the weaknesses they see in the Hyde process?  Or do you feel that doing so is just an attack on the school?

   In short- who are you?

GE

[Anonymous]

Gary,

Don't you have anything better to d?.  Why don't you build a house in New Orleans or go serve food in a soup kitchen.  I think this is so self serving; you've finally found a small group of people who "kinda" beleive what you're saying and you milking it for all it's worth.  Maybe if everyone chipped in $100, you could use it to do some real good.

Sheesh

I must take issue with this.  If anything, Gary is merely trying to help out in response to the recently increased volume here.  Apparently a thankless job, at least vis-a-vie your input, and yes, I am sure that he has "better" things to do, which makes his assistance in this all the more appreciated (at least by this particular poster, yours truly),[/b]

[Anonymous]

I must take issue with this.  If anything, Gary is merely trying to help out in response to the recently increased volume here.  Apparently a thankless job, at least vis-a-vie your input, and yes, I am sure that he has "better" things to do, which makes his assistance in this all the more appreciated (at least by this particular poster, yours truly),

Fortunately, I work out of my home and never stop checking my e-mail!  For the record, when I'm not making a record (big session tomorrow!), playing tennis or working out, reading, writing about politics, being with my wife and kids or making money, I have taken my experience as the parent of a kid who had some issues and put it to the service of families in crises in my community.  I have also been invited by the NJ penal system to enter the prison community in order to talk with (listen, mostly, I think) inmates.

Sheesh, I'm doing the best I can!  Thanks for pointing out that there's always more good work to be done.

GE

[Anonymous]

Gary,

Don't you have anything better to d?.  Why don't you build a house in New Orleans or go serve food in a soup kitchen.  I think this is so self serving; you've finally found a small group of people who "kinda" beleive what you're saying and you milking it for all it's worth.  Maybe if everyone chipped in $100, you could use it to do some real good.

Sheesh

It seems to me that what Gary is proposing is EXACTLY what needs to be done and is enormously valuable.  For you to suggest that this is a waste of time is remarkably reminiscent of the arrogant, dismissive, and judgmental attitudes and behavior I encountered during my time at Hyde.  Your assumption that this isn't a worthwhile project is so similar to the unhelpful, self-righteous rhetoric I grew to resent at Hyde.

Now that I'm out of Hyde I know for a fact that too often what happens at the school is harmful.  There's no question in my mind that people thinking about Hyde need to know these details from people who spent time at Hyde.  I applaud Gary's offer and intentions; his efforts to help people look at Hyde, from every angle, with their eyes wide open is very important.  We're talking about people's lives here.  If people read all of this and decide they want Hyde, then fine.  However, I know for a fact that many people have read these posts and have decided to avoid Hyde.  Having access to this information is critical.  To suggest that this is trivial and inconsequential is the height of arrogance (a quality I encountered much too often at Hyde, despite the school's claim to embrace humility).

[gary eskow]

Don't you have anything better to d?.  Why don't you build a house in New Orleans or go serve food in a soup kitchen.  I think this is so self serving; you've finally found a small group of people who "kinda" beleive what you're saying and you milking it for all it's worth.  Maybe if everyone chipped in $100, you could use it to do some real good.

Sheesh

Ok, it seems clear that "Sheesh" will most likely not respond to the posts subsequent to his/hers.  Note the obvious rhetorical device:
Sheesh puts the colloquial contraction "kinda" in quotes to give the impression that he's quoting other submissions. He/she/it also tries to diminish those with whom my comments might resonate by calling them "a small group."  But noone used the folksy "kinda,"  and the idea that I'm "milking it for all it's worth" is totally unsubstantiated- and he has no reasonable basis for making a judgment on the number of people who might agree- or disagree for that matter- with me.  Let's give this guy a break and disregard his inability to parse the English language or spell with any degree of competency.

Sheesh, a bit of advice: if you aspire to move up the chain and challenge the next level of competition you need to hone your rhetorical chops!

Peace,

G

[Anonymous]

Couldn't have said it better myself, Gary (although I wouldn't have been so nice!).  

[gary eskow]

Couldn't have said it better myself, Gary (although I wouldn't have been so nice!).  

Thank you... it's one thing for people who fear reprisals to take the cloak of anonymity, but guys like Sheesh are simply cowards.
Anyone with the most basic rhetorical skills could slice and dice this chump without yawning.

[Anonymous]

You mean I don't need my dentures?  

[Anonymous]

Couldn't have said it better myself, Gary (although I wouldn't have been so nice!).  

Thank you... it's one thing for people who fear reprisals to take the cloak of anonymity, but guys like Sheesh are simply cowards.
Anyone with the most basic rhetorical skills could slice and dice this chump without yawning.

  Yeah! Come on Hyde.  Is that the best you can do?  Show some game.  Gary is kicking you rhetorical asses.  He called you leader, what was it?  Old and feeble?

[Anonymous]

Couldn't have said it better myself, Gary (although I wouldn't have been so nice!).  

Thank you... it's one thing for people who fear reprisals to take the cloak of anonymity, but guys like Sheesh are simply cowards.
Anyone with the most basic rhetorical skills could slice and dice this chump without yawning.

  Yeah! Come on Hyde.  Is that the best you can do?  Show some game.  Gary is kicking you rhetorical asses.  He called you leader, what was it?  Old and feeble?

Hi all you posters. I am a former Hyde parent.  My husband and I had dinner tonight with a former Hyde student.  Ironically she brought up the name Larry Dubinsky the former staff member and present friend of the leaders of Hyde. It is my understanding that he was fired from the school for sexual harassment.  He is also the husband of Donna Dubinsky who is presently employeed at Hyde School.  He lives in a home provided by Hyde up the street from the Woodstock campus.

This former student told us of a couple of incidences that happened to her while at Hyde.  She commented that she doesn't understand how Hyde has been able to get away with this for so long.

She told us the story about how when several students were put on "2-4" (a punishment) Larry Dubinsky as the head of Deans area required them as punishment to go clean the attic at his house.  While up in the attic she said there was a lone chair and surrounding this chair was piles and piles of pornographic magazines.  The kids were in shock that pornographic magazines would be his home not only because he was a staff member of Hyde, but also the fact that he was a husband and a father of young children.

After the kids got done doing the cleaning of his house he then told the girls to go jump in the pool with their clothes on.  The girls were wearing t-shirts and according to her it was normal behavior for Larry to want to see what would happen when one gets wet in a t-shirt.  I don't quite understand why kids who were being punished would then be invited to jump in a pool as a reward???

The other story this girl told us was about having to carry items from Larry's house back to campus.  Donna Dubinsky was driving the van and between  the boxes and the kids there was very little room to sit in this van.  Larry requested in front of his wife that this girl sit on his lap.  Hmmmm.....

This same girl told us how much Hyde damaged her and how she wasted the important years of her life by being at Hyde.  She said that although her Mother was hoping Hyde would help her self esteem, Hyde accomplished bringing her down more although at the present time she is doing very well IN SPITE of Hyde.

I encourage more students to come to this site and tell their stories whether positive or negative.

[Anonymous]

HOW on earth can she possibly stay married to this cretin?  HOW?  HOW?  And THESE people dare pass judgement on us?  He probably had those girls clean up his attic deliberately, wonder what THEY had to scrub off the floor!?  I'm sure he couldn't WAIT to ponder THAT one later on!

Seriously folks, these people are low class, atavistic BUFFOONS!  Oh, there is some HIGHLY developed character HERE!  What a piece of work.  Makes me just want to gag!   ::puke::