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« Reply #285 on: February 15, 2007, 11:56:16 AM »
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Sorry, I meant to also suggest checking eBay directly, even though it is included in FetchBook's arsenal.  There is such a huge amount of listings going on eBay at any given hour, it may be that Fetch is a shade behind.  EBay's nonauction affiliate Half.com is also in Fetch's arsenal and should be up to date, as listings are slower.

I am sorry I do not have either of these texts.  Obtaining them used might be the easiest solution.  

Check also Amazon.com for reviews, or do a google for same, as his books may also have been reviewed elsewhere.  The reviews might even have some quotes from the text(s).


Of course, Joe's notoriously outrageous, demeaning, and insulting comments--the ones that he tends to spit out spontaneously and with little provocation--are not likely to appear in print form.  Many of us have heard these bizarre and embarrassing comments, but may not be able to cite a source in print.
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« Reply #286 on: February 15, 2007, 01:45:05 PM »
Of course, Joe's notoriously outrageous, demeaning, and insulting comments--the ones that he tends to spit out spontaneously and with little provocation--are not likely to appear in print form. Many of us have heard these bizarre and embarrassing comments, but may not be able to cite a source in print.

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« Reply #287 on: February 15, 2007, 01:45:05 PM »
Of course, Joe's notoriously outrageous, demeaning, and insulting comments--the ones that he tends to spit out spontaneously and with little provocation--are not likely to appear in print form. Many of us have heard these bizarre and embarrassing comments, but may not be able to cite a source in print.

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I'm not looking to "catch" Joe in any way, only to get the clearest picture of his philosophy- if you will- that I can.
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« Reply #288 on: February 15, 2007, 01:45:05 PM »
Of course, Joe's notoriously outrageous, demeaning, and insulting comments--the ones that he tends to spit out spontaneously and with little provocation--are not likely to appear in print form. Many of us have heard these bizarre and embarrassing comments, but may not be able to cite a source in print.

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« Reply #289 on: February 15, 2007, 01:45:18 PM »
Of course, Joe's notoriously outrageous, demeaning, and insulting comments--the ones that he tends to spit out spontaneously and with little provocation--are not likely to appear in print form. Many of us have heard these bizarre and embarrassing comments, but may not be able to cite a source in print.

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« Reply #290 on: February 15, 2007, 01:45:35 PM »
Of course, Joe's notoriously outrageous, demeaning, and insulting comments--the ones that he tends to spit out spontaneously and with little provocation--are not likely to appear in print form. Many of us have heard these bizarre and embarrassing comments, but may not be able to cite a source in print.

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« Reply #291 on: February 15, 2007, 01:45:35 PM »
Of course, Joe's notoriously outrageous, demeaning, and insulting comments--the ones that he tends to spit out spontaneously and with little provocation--are not likely to appear in print form. Many of us have heard these bizarre and embarrassing comments, but may not be able to cite a source in print.

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I'm not looking to "catch" Joe in any way, only to get the clearest picture of his philosophy- if you will- that I can.
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« Reply #292 on: February 15, 2007, 05:42:08 PM »
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Of course, Joe's notoriously outrageous, demeaning, and insulting comments--the ones that he tends to spit out spontaneously and with little provocation--are not likely to appear in print form. Many of us have heard these bizarre and embarrassing comments, but may not be able to cite a source in print.

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I'm not looking to "catch" Joe in any way, only to get the clearest picture of his philosophy- if you will- that I can.



  I would like to understand what the philosophy is.  The notion of a guiding secular morality is interesting.  Secular morality comes from where? Man?  If it is from Man then is it not mutable by men?  Can you lie to archive the "purpose."  Can you accept student that you realize you have no chance of helping so the the enrollment level stays up so that the purpose can be achieved?  Why not?

 When Alan Turing (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_turing) broke the LFSR based Enigma (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ULTRA)
One of the first things that the Brits learned was the Luftwaffe's plan to bomb Coventry.  (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Coventry)

Churchill was  faced with a moral dilema: Evacuate Coventry and save lifes and reveal the code had been broken or allow the Nazi's to slaugher the population and protect the secret.

Defeating the Nazis was too important of a purpose, so he allowed people to die.
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« Reply #293 on: February 15, 2007, 07:45:55 PM »
There is no doubt in my mind that Hyde lies to "archive the purpose."  I am sure that there is a continuum of self-awareness regarding this, with some well-meaning inexperienced junior faculty fooling themselves about what they are really doing, and some of the more cynical diehards rationalizing that the ends justify the means (and the little bastard deserves it anyway).
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« Reply #294 on: February 17, 2007, 01:14:59 AM »
"To my mind the most serious threat posed by the technology of behavior modification is the power this technology gives one man to impose his views and values on another. . . If our society is to remain free, one man must not be empowered to change another's personality and dictate the values, thoughts, and feelings of another."
Senator Sam Irvin writing in Individual Rights and the Federal Role in Behavior Modification, November 1974
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« Reply #295 on: February 20, 2007, 08:21:26 PM »
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"To my mind the most serious threat posed by the technology of behavior modification is the power this technology gives one man to impose his views and values on another. . . If our society is to remain free, one man must not be empowered to change another's personality and dictate the values, thoughts, and feelings of another."
Senator Sam Irvin writing in Individual Rights and the Federal Role in Behavior Modification, November 1974


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« Reply #296 on: February 20, 2007, 09:44:05 PM »
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"To my mind the most serious threat posed by the technology of behavior modification is the power this technology gives one man to impose his views and values on another. . . If our society is to remain free, one man must not be empowered to change another's personality and dictate the values, thoughts, and feelings of another."
Senator Sam Irvin writing in Individual Rights and the Federal Role in Behavior Modification, November 1974

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   When did Hyde start using  these techniques?  They were used in the mid seventies.  Was it right from the get go in '66?
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« Reply #297 on: February 20, 2007, 10:38:15 PM »
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"To my mind the most serious threat posed by the technology of behavior modification is the power this technology gives one man to impose his views and values on another. . . If our society is to remain free, one man must not be empowered to change another's personality and dictate the values, thoughts, and feelings of another."
Senator Sam Irvin writing in Individual Rights and the Federal Role in Behavior Modification, November 1974

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   When did Hyde start using  these techniques?  They were used in the mid seventies.  Was it right from the get go in '66?

I'm not sure, although I imagine it would be some version of same.  These techniques are also very similar to AA and synanon coercion techniques, and Joe certainly did quote liberally from AA, as you may recall.  All of these "therapeutic" boarding schools use/used behavioral modification techniques that are more similar than they are different, really more or less points along the same continuum, if you ask me.
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In the late 1960's, when Joe was just starting out, he told people to "give me the kids you have the most problems with, the ones you can not teach," as he couldn't get anyone else, being a less than tried commodity (my paraphrase of his quote, which I can't find at the moment). The school was all boys then, and primarily troublemakers, JuVies, and like-minded malcontents of the rebellious sort.

see also:  http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t=19252&start=54
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« Reply #298 on: February 21, 2007, 01:11:15 PM »
I have never responded to this website, and only learned about it after we had taken our child out of Hyde.  I went to it because of something I had recently read about it, and started reading.  Much/some of what I read on it confirms our experience there.  

We looked at Hyde not because our child was "troubled" or in trouble, nor was our child in any substance abuse or the like.  Our reason for looking at various schools other than our local public school was because the aspirations rate at our school was extremely low with only about 20% of the graduates attending a 4 year school after graduation.  We felt those lack of aspirations were as infectious as when a school enjoys high aspirations.  We also made the mistake of geography.  We only looked at schools within a day's driving distance of our home, which Hyde is.  

After reading all the literature, doing the well presented campus tour with a polite and amiable student and sitting in on the "are you ready to accept excellence in your life?" interview, we thought - hmmm, excellence as a goal for every student!  What a great concept.  How could it be wrong?  Let's do it.  Our child trusted us and agreed with our motives and plans and willingly went along to enroll at what we called this "once in a lifetime opportunity."  

Until I die, I will be haunted by the fact that I took my good, naive kid and turned him/her over to what is now clear to me to be a cult.  I also introduced my child to kids with more problems than I had ever heard of.  My child's roommate, the dorm captain, ran a tight ship.  There was a chronic Dorm thief and this captain punished the group collectively.   At one point, accusing my child of being the thief, which was very distressing for my child.   Come to find out, at almost the end of the year, they found the thief - the thief was the Dorm Captain.  Great stuff to subject your kid to, while spending a fortune on their supposed development of excellence.

I wish someone would investigate this school, its administration most of whom are nepotists, and its young underacheiving, ill educated, brainwashed "faculty."  The only scholarly thing I found among any of the faculty members is some of them "graduated" with a bachelors from Bowdoin, although without any kind of education degree.     They spent so many hours dealing with kids trying to keep them from their worst- they had no time to really look at the good kids and move them to the best.  Their promotional materials are a glossy patina over a very troubling place.

I think the school, whether intended or not, is a holding tank for desperate well off parents, who are willing to surrender their parenting to abusive mind-game playing individuals while surrendering  their personal liberty and dignity. If you don't fit that mold, I suspect you, like me, will have serious misgivings about the place.

I wish I had done what you are doing. ..to ask the parents of former Hyde students.  The year our child was there was the worst year of my life and theirs.   I hope I am forgiven for what we did by putting our child there, despite our good intentions.  

I could go on for hours detailing what I experienced and what my child experienced.  Suffice to say it started the moment of our arrival when the parents were shuffled off to the first of what became about  20 "group counseling" sessions run by non-professionals, where parents were confronted and severly pressured to talk about humiliating or private troubles.  Of course if you could not identify a specific horror affecting your life, you were a liar and called such and confronted for hiding something even deeper. It was insanity.  At one point, throughout the year of these mandatory sessions (which  have all kinds of acronyms such as - regional meetings, FLCs,  Parents' weekend (watchout for these two, they are a nightmare) retreat weekend etc. etc.) I revealed my most horrific life experience.  It was being at Hyde having entrusted them with my child and then discovering it was a cult.  Well, despite all the endless endorsements for honesty, this was honesty that no one could accept, and I became a bullseye, not only for some of the people in the room, but the rest of the weekend and the rest of the year.  Faculty and administration all over campus were pulling me aside to confront me and knock me, my spouse and my kid, who was one of the few there that didn't have what I call 'life altering" problems.   It confirmed to me this is exactly what a cult does.  The irony was I was a consumer of education spending about 43K a year, and I had a choice.  

The next year, it was not Hyde.   Our child is thriving in the new school, which we carefully selected, together.  Academically, the entire year needed to be repeated due to the weak academics at Hyde.  Now, we are on the 5 year high school plan, thanks to Hyde, and recovering from the worst trauma of our lives.

I heard Joe Gauld say in passing once, he looked carefully at what the Hoffman Institute does and Hyde does more of it and goes further.   Well, take a look at that website.  Hyde encourages kids to reveal private and personal things about their parents, and pressures them to even make stuff up, so that they don't get "confronted" with being a liar or being "dirty."  They encourage the kids to let the school know if the parents haven't bought into the Hyde philosophy.   Sound Familiar?  Children "turning in" their parents on their philosophical differences with the Party?   Then they put on a full court press the likes of which would impress the Moonies.   I have some letters written to us from the administration at Hyde that are so classic of cult pressure tactics that I can't believe they put this stuff in writing.  


Hyde has a place, I guess for kids who have NO options.  There was a 17 year old rapist at Hyde the year my child was there!  But they have no mental health staff, they do not even have a full time infirmary or nurse, and they have a young adult faculty not much older than the students telling parents what their family dynamics are.



 I had one 24 year old "facutly member"  pull me aside during one of the 20+ "Layman group counselling sessions" called by some other acronym.  The highly enlightened 24 year old told me in no uncertain terms what was wrong with my family from what she has observed. (All of about 45 minutes with 10 other people in the room taking turns to speak.)  She was so off base, I looked at her and said, you apparently don't know us at all.  If anything we go too much in the other direction.  It confirmed to me these people know nothing about us, yet confront, humiliate, contradict and impose their non professional psycho-jargon on families.  Yet, the vast majority of the faculty had no psychology training, no real world life experience, widely abnormal family dynamics, and here's a scary one...no parenting experience.  The ones that do have some life experience or training are there because their kids get free tuition.

 I considered reporting them to someone, except I feared retaliation against my child.  I feared their sabotaging my child's chances to get into another school.  We surreptiously and fearfully started looking for a new school and then in writing with no notice ended the ordeal.  We of course got letters from the administration saying we didn't give the process a full and fair chance, and had we done so, it would have worked.   Believe me, we entered believers.  It only took a person of average intellegence, with an open mind and the gift of having a child who had options  to realize that no one should have to go through this, neither parents, or their children.  

One example of a dozen I could cite was in the dead of winter when our child was suffering from a sinus infection,.   It was reported to me our child carried their head down throughout campus and did very poorly on a quiz that day.  Based on this behavior, one amibitious and well programmed 25 year old "dean"  made the unsubstantiated accusation that our child was "Dirty" (which is Hyde speak for violating the ethics code)  The punishment?  Immediate 2-4 (outside all day isolation work detail)  until there was an admission of wrongdoing.  Our child was so sick that  by day three I had to intervene, because our child had been informed they would be outside all day, missing classes, until they admitted what they had done without an end in sight.   After three days in bitter cold weather with an untreated sinus infection (because you aren't allowed to visit the nurse to get out of 2-4) our child called us and told us they were ready to admit to anything.  I insisted there be no lies or false admissions.  I tried to keep their courage up and focused on trying to get them an antibiotic.  Can you imagine a child feeling this kind of pressure?  Of course, when we  sheepishly called the Dean after day 3 to see what the really story was, becuase naturally they tell you your children lie to you about Hyde,  I found out this "dean" did not even know about the sinus infection and had no evidence of our child being "dirty."   This Dean's conclusion was based on our child's appearance and behavior and quiz results from the day they felt so lousy.

At that point we  said we did  not want our child outside anymore, and in fact, since we were paying tuition for an education we'd like our kid to get back into the classroom rather than raking branches from the campus.  Curiously, we were told by the Dean that our child's 2-4 was going to end "tomorrow" anyway.  I asked if it was their intention to get our child to fess up to somehting they didn't do just to get off 2-4 and the answer was the expected...never! But think about it,  if you had no end in sight to this type of "punishment" after 3 days, would you make something up?  I think many honest people might.

 I close this piece by stating that I have tried to be very careful not to identify my child, although I anticipate the clan will try to figure out who this is.  I don't trust them at all.  I have nothing to gain by writing this, and it is sometimes just easier to think of the year as a learning experience (a negative one for sure, but still a learning experience.)  Yet I felt compelled when I saw your question to answer it.
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« Reply #299 on: February 21, 2007, 03:38:57 PM »
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I have never responded to this website, and only learned about it after we had taken our child out of Hyde.  I went to it because of something I had recently read about it, and started reading.  Much/some of what I read on it confirms our experience there.  

We looked at Hyde not because our child was "troubled" or in trouble, nor was our child in any substance abuse or the like.  Our reason for looking at various schools other than our local public school was because the aspirations rate at our school was extremely low with only about 20% of the graduates attending a 4 year school after graduation.  We felt those lack of aspirations were as infectious as when a school enjoys high aspirations.  We also made the mistake of geography.  We only looked at schools within a day's driving distance of our home, which Hyde is.  

After reading all the literature, doing the well presented campus tour with a polite and amiable student and sitting in on the "are you ready to accept excellence in your life?" interview, we thought - hmmm, excellence as a goal for every student!  What a great concept.  How could it be wrong?  Let's do it.  Our child trusted us and agreed with our motives and plans and willingly went along to enroll at what we called this "once in a lifetime opportunity."  

Until I die, I will be haunted by the fact that I took my good, naive kid and turned him/her over to what is now clear to me to be a cult.  I also introduced my child to kids with more problems than I had ever heard of.  My child's roommate, the dorm captain, ran a tight ship.  There was a chronic Dorm thief and this captain punished the group collectively.   At one point, accusing my child of being the thief, which was very distressing for my child.   Come to find out, at almost the end of the year, they found the thief - the thief was the Dorm Captain.  Great stuff to subject your kid to, while spending a fortune on their supposed development of excellence.

I wish someone would investigate this school, its administration most of whom are nepotists, and its young underacheiving, ill educated, brainwashed "faculty."  The only scholarly thing I found among any of the faculty members is some of them "graduated" with a bachelors from Bowdoin, although without any kind of education degree.     They spent so many hours dealing with kids trying to keep them from their worst- they had no time to really look at the good kids and move them to the best.  Their promotional materials are a glossy patina over a very troubling place.

I think the school, whether intended or not, is a holding tank for desperate well off parents, who are willing to surrender their parenting to abusive mind-game playing individuals while surrendering  their personal liberty and dignity. If you don't fit that mold, I suspect you, like me, will have serious misgivings about the place.

I wish I had done what you are doing. ..to ask the parents of former Hyde students.  The year our child was there was the worst year of my life and theirs.   I hope I am forgiven for what we did by putting our child there, despite our good intentions.  

I could go on for hours detailing what I experienced and what my child experienced.  Suffice to say it started the moment of our arrival when the parents were shuffled off to the first of what became about  20 "group counseling" sessions run by non-professionals, where parents were confronted and severly pressured to talk about humiliating or private troubles.  Of course if you could not identify a specific horror affecting your life, you were a liar and called such and confronted for hiding something even deeper. It was insanity.  At one point, throughout the year of these mandatory sessions (which  have all kinds of acronyms such as - regional meetings, FLCs,  Parents' weekend (watchout for these two, they are a nightmare) retreat weekend etc. etc.) I revealed my most horrific life experience.  It was being at Hyde having entrusted them with my child and then discovering it was a cult.  Well, despite all the endless endorsements for honesty, this was honesty that no one could accept, and I became a bullseye, not only for some of the people in the room, but the rest of the weekend and the rest of the year.  Faculty and administration all over campus were pulling me aside to confront me and knock me, my spouse and my kid, who was one of the few there that didn't have what I call 'life altering" problems.   It confirmed to me this is exactly what a cult does.  The irony was I was a consumer of education spending about 43K a year, and I had a choice.  

The next year, it was not Hyde.   Our child is thriving in the new school, which we carefully selected, together.  Academically, the entire year needed to be repeated due to the weak academics at Hyde.  Now, we are on the 5 year high school plan, thanks to Hyde, and recovering from the worst trauma of our lives.

I heard Joe Gauld say in passing once, he looked carefully at what the Hoffman Institute does and Hyde does more of it and goes further.   Well, take a look at that website.  Hyde encourages kids to reveal private and personal things about their parents, and pressures them to even make stuff up, so that they don't get "confronted" with being a liar or being "dirty."  They encourage the kids to let the school know if the parents haven't bought into the Hyde philosophy.   Sound Familiar?  Children "turning in" their parents on their philosophical differences with the Party?   Then they put on a full court press the likes of which would impress the Moonies.   I have some letters written to us from the administration at Hyde that are so classic of cult pressure tactics that I can't believe they put this stuff in writing.  


Hyde has a place, I guess for kids who have NO options.  There was a 17 year old rapist at Hyde the year my child was there!  But they have no mental health staff, they do not even have a full time infirmary or nurse, and they have a young adult faculty not much older than the students telling parents what their family dynamics are.



 I had one 24 year old "facutly member"  pull me aside during one of the 20+ "Layman group counselling sessions" called by some other acronym.  The highly enlightened 24 year old told me in no uncertain terms what was wrong with my family from what she has observed. (All of about 45 minutes with 10 other people in the room taking turns to speak.)  She was so off base, I looked at her and said, you apparently don't know us at all.  If anything we go too much in the other direction.  It confirmed to me these people know nothing about us, yet confront, humiliate, contradict and impose their non professional psycho-jargon on families.  Yet, the vast majority of the faculty had no psychology training, no real world life experience, widely abnormal family dynamics, and here's a scary one...no parenting experience.  The ones that do have some life experience or training are there because their kids get free tuition.

 I considered reporting them to someone, except I feared retaliation against my child.  I feared their sabotaging my child's chances to get into another school.  We surreptiously and fearfully started looking for a new school and then in writing with no notice ended the ordeal.  We of course got letters from the administration saying we didn't give the process a full and fair chance, and had we done so, it would have worked.   Believe me, we entered believers.  It only took a person of average intellegence, with an open mind and the gift of having a child who had options  to realize that no one should have to go through this, neither parents, or their children.  

One example of a dozen I could cite was in the dead of winter when our child was suffering from a sinus infection,.   It was reported to me our child carried their head down throughout campus and did very poorly on a quiz that day.  Based on this behavior, one amibitious and well programmed 25 year old "dean"  made the unsubstantiated accusation that our child was "Dirty" (which is Hyde speak for violating the ethics code)  The punishment?  Immediate 2-4 (outside all day isolation work detail)  until there was an admission of wrongdoing.  Our child was so sick that  by day three I had to intervene, because our child had been informed they would be outside all day, missing classes, until they admitted what they had done without an end in sight.   After three days in bitter cold weather with an untreated sinus infection (because you aren't allowed to visit the nurse to get out of 2-4) our child called us and told us they were ready to admit to anything.  I insisted there be no lies or false admissions.  I tried to keep their courage up and focused on trying to get them an antibiotic.  Can you imagine a child feeling this kind of pressure?  Of course, when we  sheepishly called the Dean after day 3 to see what the really story was, becuase naturally they tell you your children lie to you about Hyde,  I found out this "dean" did not even know about the sinus infection and had no evidence of our child being "dirty."   This Dean's conclusion was based on our child's appearance and behavior and quiz results from the day they felt so lousy.

At that point we  said we did  not want our child outside anymore, and in fact, since we were paying tuition for an education we'd like our kid to get back into the classroom rather than raking branches from the campus.  Curiously, we were told by the Dean that our child's 2-4 was going to end "tomorrow" anyway.  I asked if it was their intention to get our child to fess up to somehting they didn't do just to get off 2-4 and the answer was the expected...never! But think about it,  if you had no end in sight to this type of "punishment" after 3 days, would you make something up?  I think many honest people might.

 I close this piece by stating that I have tried to be very careful not to identify my child, although I anticipate the clan will try to figure out who this is.  I don't trust them at all.  I have nothing to gain by writing this, and it is sometimes just easier to think of the year as a learning experience (a negative one for sure, but still a learning experience.)  Yet I felt compelled when I saw your question to answer it.


I want to thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for taking the time to summarize your Hyde experience.  From beginning to end, I felt as if I was reading our family's story.  We too ended up at Hyde based on a misconception.  We too were seduced by the marketing pitch about character and excellence.  It sounded too good to be true, and it turns out it wasn't true.  Like you, we quickly became profoundly concerned about the cult-like qualities, the very young and often inept staff, the mishandled and abusive quasi-group therapy sessions run by people who usually didn't have a clue about how to handle the sensitive issues that surfaced, the poor classroom education, etc., etc.  Just like you, we furtively started to look elsewhere for a healthier environment.  We too were approached by staff who gave us the "hard sell" about staying at Hyde, giving Hyde a fair chance, and so on.  We didn't fall for it.  We got out of that rat's hole as fast we could.

Our child treaded water at Hyde; it was a waste of time.  Fortunately, our kid began to blossom the next year, in spite of Hyde's craziness.

Again, like you, our decision to spend time at Hyde was just about the worst decision we've ever made.  We went in with good intentions and tried hard to make it work.  But, Hyde is so rife with pathology, we gave up.  We're glad we did and want to do whatever we can to let parents know how important it is to look elsewhere.

Thank you, so much, for saying it like it is.
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