Requesting Parents' Assessment of Hyde School

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Ursus:

--- Quote --- I cannot begin to tell you what a breath of fresh air our child's post-Hyde school has been. It's a dream come true, and it puts Hyde to shame. We deeply regret that we ever set foot on Hyde's campus. Seeing what's possible at a school that is professionally run by skilled, insightful, supportive (and not naive) administrators and teachers is inspiring and gives me hope.
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What school did you end up enrolling your child in?

Anonymous:

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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I want to thank you, very much, for your thoughtful, articulate and perceptive observations. Like you, I have been reading this web site cautiously and with some skepticism. I am now convinced that there are quite a few very responsible people posting here who have lots to say about their dreadful, painful, or whatever experiences at Hyde. Yes, there is some chaff among the wheat here, but that's to be expected in such a public forum where anyone can participate. I'm very, very impressed by the growing number of people who have important things to say about Hyde, nearly all of them negative (at least that's my impression).

What seems to be happening here is that a critical mass of people is beginning to speak out about their Hyde experience in a way that wasn't possible when our kids were there. Many of us suffered in deep and painful silence as we groped our way through Hyde for the 1-2-3 years we were there. This web site seems to be unleashing lots of pent-up feeling and emotion about Hyde. Finally, there's a place to share this, and this seems to be a safe place. This is a very important development, and I suspect that Hyde is suffering from this exposure.

As you said, this is very cathartic. While I was suffering at Hyde, and as I witnessed all manner of unconscionable abuses and inept staff, I fantasized about exposing Hyde. Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine that this kind of outlet might be available. I'm glad to have discovered this.
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Thank you for those words of encouragement. I have two questions for you. How is it possible to "read this web site cautiously and with some skepticism" and at the same time to "suffer in deep and painful silence" at Hyde?

My other question is: How is it possible to "witness all manner of unconscionable abuses and inept staff" while "fantasizing about exposing Hyde" and at the same time to reenroll your child there for 1-2-3 years?

Forgive me if I'm prying, but I'm truly curious to know how you resolved these apparent contradictions.

Mike
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Mike: Your questions are reasonable (I wrote the post you're asking about). Regarding your first question, the caution and skepticism to which I refer have nothing to do with the validity of many postings here. I've never questioned the thoughtful, passionate, insightful, sincere comments. My reasons for caution and skepticism had only to do with my paranoia about Hyde. When I first discovered this site I wondered who was posting here, whether Hyde was snooping and setting up Hyde's fans to post positive comments (I now see that there are virtually no positive Hyde comments), and I was concerned about some snide and immature, provocative, occasionally obscene comments. That's all. This site now seems to have evolved and the vast majority of the postings are constructive. I hope that clarifies my comment about caution and skepticism.

Regarding your second question, we did not keep our child at Hyde for 3 years. When I referred to staying at Hyde for 1-2-3 years, I was merely referring to the range of experiences among those posting here. As soon as we realized how pathological Hyde's environment is, and how damaging it is for many Hyde students and parents, we began searching for a new school. I cannot begin to tell you what a breath of fresh air our child's post-Hyde school has been. It's a dream come true, and it puts Hyde to shame. We deeply regret that we ever set foot on Hyde's campus. Seeing what's possible at a school that is professionally run by skilled, insightful, supportive (and not naive) administrators and teachers is inspiring and gives me hope. I've learned that there are wonderful schools for kids who struggle, horrible schools (I put Hyde in this category), and schools that are "mixed bags" (with impressive strengths and nontrivial limitations). The challenge, I think, is finding a principled, skilled educational consultant who knows to stay away from Hyde and is very well informed and willing to look for one of the really good schools that are out there. Like schools, educational consultants are a mixed group; some are wonderfully skilled and some are not.
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I thought that you were using the royal we, but I just wanted to make sure. As for Hyde snooping, they probably are! I wish we could get a dialogue going with them, but it seems they are not ready to recognize us and/or they are not up to the debate. This merely demonstrates the need to take our grievances to a more public forum, such as the one Gary is proposing. Thanks for your clarifications.

Mike
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I do believe that Hyde reads these posts. I also believe that they themselves were posting positive responses several months back. At this point they probably see that we have some fairly intelligent people on this board, and they don't want to try to go up against us for fear of making themselves look worse than they already do.

There isn't a lot Hyde can say to defend themselves against this. Facts are facts and what we are telling the world about what goes on behind the doors at Hyde School is the truth. Some people might see the tactics Hyde School uses as positive. I personally don't, but to each his own!!

I want to thank all of you who are posting and have validated my feelings about the destruction and emotional harm Hyde causes. This board has really helped me. I hope more people will find it and join so they too can feel validated as well as coming to terms with the whole Hyde experience

Anonymous:

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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I want to thank you, very much, for your thoughtful, articulate and perceptive observations. Like you, I have been reading this web site cautiously and with some skepticism. I am now convinced that there are quite a few very responsible people posting here who have lots to say about their dreadful, painful, or whatever experiences at Hyde. Yes, there is some chaff among the wheat here, but that's to be expected in such a public forum where anyone can participate. I'm very, very impressed by the growing number of people who have important things to say about Hyde, nearly all of them negative (at least that's my impression).

What seems to be happening here is that a critical mass of people is beginning to speak out about their Hyde experience in a way that wasn't possible when our kids were there. Many of us suffered in deep and painful silence as we groped our way through Hyde for the 1-2-3 years we were there. This web site seems to be unleashing lots of pent-up feeling and emotion about Hyde. Finally, there's a place to share this, and this seems to be a safe place. This is a very important development, and I suspect that Hyde is suffering from this exposure.

As you said, this is very cathartic. While I was suffering at Hyde, and as I witnessed all manner of unconscionable abuses and inept staff, I fantasized about exposing Hyde. Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine that this kind of outlet might be available. I'm glad to have discovered this.
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Thank you for those words of encouragement. I have two questions for you. How is it possible to "read this web site cautiously and with some skepticism" and at the same time to "suffer in deep and painful silence" at Hyde?

My other question is: How is it possible to "witness all manner of unconscionable abuses and inept staff" while "fantasizing about exposing Hyde" and at the same time to reenroll your child there for 1-2-3 years?

Forgive me if I'm prying, but I'm truly curious to know how you resolved these apparent contradictions.

Mike
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Mike: Your questions are reasonable (I wrote the post you're asking about). Regarding your first question, the caution and skepticism to which I refer have nothing to do with the validity of many postings here. I've never questioned the thoughtful, passionate, insightful, sincere comments. My reasons for caution and skepticism had only to do with my paranoia about Hyde. When I first discovered this site I wondered who was posting here, whether Hyde was snooping and setting up Hyde's fans to post positive comments (I now see that there are virtually no positive Hyde comments), and I was concerned about some snide and immature, provocative, occasionally obscene comments. That's all. This site now seems to have evolved and the vast majority of the postings are constructive. I hope that clarifies my comment about caution and skepticism.

Regarding your second question, we did not keep our child at Hyde for 3 years. When I referred to staying at Hyde for 1-2-3 years, I was merely referring to the range of experiences among those posting here. As soon as we realized how pathological Hyde's environment is, and how damaging it is for many Hyde students and parents, we began searching for a new school. I cannot begin to tell you what a breath of fresh air our child's post-Hyde school has been. It's a dream come true, and it puts Hyde to shame. We deeply regret that we ever set foot on Hyde's campus. Seeing what's possible at a school that is professionally run by skilled, insightful, supportive (and not naive) administrators and teachers is inspiring and gives me hope. I've learned that there are wonderful schools for kids who struggle, horrible schools (I put Hyde in this category), and schools that are "mixed bags" (with impressive strengths and nontrivial limitations). The challenge, I think, is finding a principled, skilled educational consultant who knows to stay away from Hyde and is very well informed and willing to look for one of the really good schools that are out there. Like schools, educational consultants are a mixed group; some are wonderfully skilled and some are not.
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I thought that you were using the royal we, but I just wanted to make sure. As for Hyde snooping, they probably are! I wish we could get a dialogue going with them, but it seems they are not ready to recognize us and/or they are not up to the debate. This merely demonstrates the need to take our grievances to a more public forum, such as the one Gary is proposing. Thanks for your clarifications.

Mike
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I do believe that Hyde reads these posts. I also believe that they themselves were posting positive responses several months back. At this point they probably see that we have some fairly intelligent people on this board, and they don't want to try to go up against us for fear of making themselves look worse than they already do.

There isn't a lot Hyde can say to defend themselves against this. Facts are facts and what we are telling the world about what goes on behind the doors at Hyde School is the truth. Some people might see the tactics Hyde School uses as positive. I personally don't, but to each his own!!

I want to thank all of you who are posting and have validated my feelings about the destruction and emotional harm Hyde causes. This board has really helped me. I hope more people will find it and join so they too can feel validated as well as coming to terms with the whole Hyde experience
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Seems like we are having our own Hyde Seminar but instead of putting the kleenex in the middle of the room and having untrained facilitators badgering and humiliating parents and students, we are doing it in a much more helpful way. Congratulations to Mike and Emil and whoever else has helped me to feel better about what I went through at Hyde School.

Anonymous:

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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I want to thank you, very much, for your thoughtful, articulate and perceptive observations. Like you, I have been reading this web site cautiously and with some skepticism. I am now convinced that there are quite a few very responsible people posting here who have lots to say about their dreadful, painful, or whatever experiences at Hyde. Yes, there is some chaff among the wheat here, but that's to be expected in such a public forum where anyone can participate. I'm very, very impressed by the growing number of people who have important things to say about Hyde, nearly all of them negative (at least that's my impression).

What seems to be happening here is that a critical mass of people is beginning to speak out about their Hyde experience in a way that wasn't possible when our kids were there. Many of us suffered in deep and painful silence as we groped our way through Hyde for the 1-2-3 years we were there. This web site seems to be unleashing lots of pent-up feeling and emotion about Hyde. Finally, there's a place to share this, and this seems to be a safe place. This is a very important development, and I suspect that Hyde is suffering from this exposure.

As you said, this is very cathartic. While I was suffering at Hyde, and as I witnessed all manner of unconscionable abuses and inept staff, I fantasized about exposing Hyde. Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine that this kind of outlet might be available. I'm glad to have discovered this.
--- End quote ---

Thank you for those words of encouragement. I have two questions for you. How is it possible to "read this web site cautiously and with some skepticism" and at the same time to "suffer in deep and painful silence" at Hyde?

My other question is: How is it possible to "witness all manner of unconscionable abuses and inept staff" while "fantasizing about exposing Hyde" and at the same time to reenroll your child there for 1-2-3 years?

Forgive me if I'm prying, but I'm truly curious to know how you resolved these apparent contradictions.

Mike
--- End quote ---

Mike: Your questions are reasonable (I wrote the post you're asking about). Regarding your first question, the caution and skepticism to which I refer have nothing to do with the validity of many postings here. I've never questioned the thoughtful, passionate, insightful, sincere comments. My reasons for caution and skepticism had only to do with my paranoia about Hyde. When I first discovered this site I wondered who was posting here, whether Hyde was snooping and setting up Hyde's fans to post positive comments (I now see that there are virtually no positive Hyde comments), and I was concerned about some snide and immature, provocative, occasionally obscene comments. That's all. This site now seems to have evolved and the vast majority of the postings are constructive. I hope that clarifies my comment about caution and skepticism.

Regarding your second question, we did not keep our child at Hyde for 3 years. When I referred to staying at Hyde for 1-2-3 years, I was merely referring to the range of experiences among those posting here. As soon as we realized how pathological Hyde's environment is, and how damaging it is for many Hyde students and parents, we began searching for a new school. I cannot begin to tell you what a breath of fresh air our child's post-Hyde school has been. It's a dream come true, and it puts Hyde to shame. We deeply regret that we ever set foot on Hyde's campus. Seeing what's possible at a school that is professionally run by skilled, insightful, supportive (and not naive) administrators and teachers is inspiring and gives me hope. I've learned that there are wonderful schools for kids who struggle, horrible schools (I put Hyde in this category), and schools that are "mixed bags" (with impressive strengths and nontrivial limitations). The challenge, I think, is finding a principled, skilled educational consultant who knows to stay away from Hyde and is very well informed and willing to look for one of the really good schools that are out there. Like schools, educational consultants are a mixed group; some are wonderfully skilled and some are not.
--- End quote ---

I thought that you were using the royal we, but I just wanted to make sure. As for Hyde snooping, they probably are! I wish we could get a dialogue going with them, but it seems they are not ready to recognize us and/or they are not up to the debate. This merely demonstrates the need to take our grievances to a more public forum, such as the one Gary is proposing. Thanks for your clarifications.

Mike
--- End quote ---

I do believe that Hyde reads these posts. I also believe that they themselves were posting positive responses several months back. At this point they probably see that we have some fairly intelligent people on this board, and they don't want to try to go up against us for fear of making themselves look worse than they already do.

There isn't a lot Hyde can say to defend themselves against this. Facts are facts and what we are telling the world about what goes on behind the doors at Hyde School is the truth. Some people might see the tactics Hyde School uses as positive. I personally don't, but to each his own!!

I want to thank all of you who are posting and have validated my feelings about the destruction and emotional harm Hyde causes. This board has really helped me. I hope more people will find it and join so they too can feel validated as well as coming to terms with the whole Hyde experience
--- End quote ---

Seems like we are having our own Hyde Seminar but instead of putting the kleenex in the middle of the room and having untrained facilitators badgering and humiliating parents and students, we are doing it in a much more helpful way. Congratulations to Mike and Emil and whoever else has helped me to feel better about what I went through at Hyde School.
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