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Court Ordered?

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RobertBruce:
You're still splitting hairs and a jury won't buy it. Hidden Lake either accepted court ordered kids when they claimed they didnt, or they accepted dangerous kids when they claimed they didnt. No way around it and no hairs to split.

Anonymous:
Usually these orders are worded to say that the child has to complete a treatment program or therapuetic program or so forth as opposed to what the court would send them to.  It is all in the wording.  It also depends on what offense the child has committed as to what type of program a court would accept.  For example a program like HLA you are looking at something like shoplifting, curfew violation, smoking pot, etc.  It would be a minor offense to get the court to accept that type of placement.

RobertBruce:
Not knowing who you are and what your connection to HLA is at this point I won't call you a liar. Instead for the moment I'll simply tell you that you are.....mistaken. I off the top of my head can think of three inmates during my own stay who were not only court ordered but were court ordered for very  violent reasons. Nothing so mundane as shoplifting.

The earlier statement stands, HLA either admits court ordered students and lied about it, or they admit very dangerous students and still lied about it. No way around it.

Deborah:
Appears as though you are misinformed.
Grand Larceny, Drug Traffic, Breaking and Entering, Stealing Cars, Assault and Battery
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?t= ... sc&start=0
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p=229997#229997

Anonymous:
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It is not actually a lie. What a judge will often do is suspend a childs sentence until they complete the program. If the family does not want to take this alternative, the child will then be ordered to a locked facility. Judges often like to give this option for kids who have committed a minor crime but obviously do not belong in a locked facility. That is why they offer HLA as an OPTION, not an order.
Kids will come in saying, and possibly truly thinking, that they are court ordered, when technically that is not the case.

I am not trying to defend HLA and I have no relationship to the school at all.  I understand that their are kids that have charges against them that are obviously attending these types of facilities.  All I am saying is what I copied and pasted from a previous post that I found that kids are made to believe that they are court ordered to these programs.  Truth is it is their choice to be there the parents have rescued them (in their eyes) to keep them from going to a real court appointed program with other court appointed kids that they feel are a bad influence on their child.  In turn they put them in a program with children from the same socioeconomic background as their child so they can be with like children with like problems.  The parents are willing to pay for this and the courts are willing to accept this because they do not have to pay any money for these children as long as they go to treatment.Technically it is the same thing except if the child knows he has an option he can leave and go to the court appointed program.  It could be a better program or it could be a worse program because it could be a program like where Martin Anderson went.  When the court decides you have no control over where you go.[/quote]

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