Undercover drug sting nets 15 high school students

[Anonymous]

Sorry, but I don't believe that a heroin addict can hold down a good job in order to be able to fund the habit, they unable to function long enough to be able to work, let alone think clearly enough to be able to work in a highly paid job, and that stuff costs, I know

You're wrong.  I know of two I can think of right now who hold down jobs, pay all their bills and really have no major problems other than making sure they can find enough and on time.

Most of the crime surrounding drug use comes from the fact that it is illegal.

[Carmel]

I support the idea that drug crime is no more prevalent or pivotal than regular crime.  Crime is crime is crime, whether the guy is a junkie or not.

I do however like to examine the system behind what consitutes "crime".  If drugs were decriminialized, taxed, regulated and quality controlled.....how much of that drug related "crime" would disappear without a trace?  The old phrase "If you cant beat em, join em" seriously applies here.  Stamping out drug use utterly by way of ignorance, lies and tyranny is very simply ineffective, thats just been proven over and over and over, and I cant comprehend why anyone would still be waving THAT flag around given the numbers.

We are attempting to control a situation by using and abusing the very same tactics that  THAT situation uses to stay OUT of control.  We need a new approach, one based on reality, not contrived morality.

The irony here is that the naysayers and the opposition have the power in their OWN hands to make a difference,  but they cant seem to dump that propaganda conditioning long enough to take the first steps.

Hell, I say we stop giving corporate CEO's multi-million dollar bonuses so they dont get addicted to money and power and steal the workforce pensions!

You cant demand that a fellow human being make the right decision, but you can make it more difficult to make the wrong one.   Weve already proven that tossing their asses jail is an ineffective deterrent.  Lets try something new.

[exhausted]

Well said carmel

There is also the prostitution to consider, while I am not against prostitution itself, I personally think it's a job, the oldest trade in the world and a service that wouldn't be alive if the demand wasn't there, so leave peope alone if that's their choice, what I am against is people preying on young kids, both girls and boys who have found themselves on the streets at a very young age and got them dependant on drugs, they then have to prostitiute themselves out to pay for the drug, the majority die through drug use, it is rife here, the first few hits are free, to ensure the person is addicted and then they have to go earn their next hit - these kids lead utterly miserable lives and die alone in some manky alleyway, usually with every STD there is known to man.

[Carmel]

I agree on the prostitution...also gambling.  Its not like you cant get a cut rate ticket to Vegas along with 4 nights at a posh hotel, family events included.  I mean, lets infuse some of that zillion dollar wealth into our own states and cities...create jobs.  

As far as the young ones getting into prostitution...I agree that its a situation borne of desperation....but getting "addicted" to drugs is not  always the final outcome.  I dunno if this makes any sense to most...but I still maintain that drug addiction is mostly a psychological effect rather than a physical one...but a youth in the grips of poverty and fear is ripe for that psychological addiction to form a good chunk of the time.  

By no means will all the issues be solved, but they could certainly be approached more responsibly and with greater effectiveness.

[Anonymous]

Because prostitution and drugs are illegal it prevents kids from asking for help because they know they are considered criminals and druggie scum by mainstream society. Thats why they end up in dark alleys, they have nowhere else to go.

[Oz girl]

I agree on the prostitution...also gambling.  Its not like you cant get a cut rate ticket to Vegas along with 4 nights at a posh hotel, family events included.  I mean, lets infuse some of that zillion dollar wealth into our own states and cities...create jobs.  
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I have never given it much thought as i am not a gambler but is Gambling illegal in some parts of the US?

[Nihilanthic]

SOME kinds of gambling are illegal in most of the USA.

Some kinds are OK. Gotta love them 'moral' laws!

[Carmel]

Whoring is illegal in the USA?? Since when?
 :lol:

LOL...no kidding, right?

Gambling is mostly illegal across the US, there are exceptions....like here in Texas, we have the state lottery, horse tracks, dog tracks...and you can jump a crusie ship off the gulf coast and they truck you out past the international line where the laws dont apply anymore.   The Indian tribes are allowed to have casinos on reservation property.  There is always online gambling of course.

Personally, I think the states are only screwing themselves...its not like you cant find a gambling outlet no matter where you are.

As far as prostitution, well thats more or less a joke here too.  You probably dont see many on the street corners, but you can head to your local 24 hour "spa" and get anything you want.  Oh, they bust them every once in a while....and they act like such big heroes about it.  We had one here by our neighborhood for YEARS, and they just shut it down, citing inappropriately attired and unlicensed therapists.  Yeah, right.....they'd been rakin it in forever.  Its all a show.

[exhausted]

Because prostitution and drugs are illegal it prevents kids from asking for help because they know they are considered criminals and druggie scum by mainstream society. Thats why they end up in dark alleys, they have nowhere else to go.

Don't know about anywhere else, but that's not necessarily true here - there is a lot of help for drug users, but its the old age vicious cycle of them not getting help until they admit they need help and so on .... people wil more often than not give someone a second chance, but when they've been robbed, beaten, emmotionally & physically bashed, worn out and generally dragged into the gutter by an addict, there's only one way to go until they can get clean and stay that way, and that way is in the opposite direction of the addict

[Anonymous]

It sounds like that person you are talking about exahusted really could have used NA meetings. 90 meetings in 90 days! Get a sponsor! It won't work if you don't work it!

[exhausted]

It sounds like that person you are talking about exahusted really could have used NA meetings. 90 meetings in 90 days! Get a sponsor! It won't work if you don't work it!

He won't admit it's a problem, he's serving a 13 year sentence now, so will be getting NA meetings, but only if he decides he wants to, or as I say admits he has a problem, he came out of prison 6 years clean, was back on it that day, which led to the inevitable crimes that are too horrifying to repeat here

Guess he likes prison food ?  

[Anonymous]

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