Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Drugs on Campus
FLCLcowdude:
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--- Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penalty"" ---Your efforts at self-justification for sending your kid away to be abused have been
Please kill yourself immediately.
Thanks,
Fornits management
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what an asshole thing to say. another human reaches out thier hand for help and you slap it away, and play it off as a joke. what an arrogant thing to do. the concerned mother was looking for some help, and instead of being a good representitive of fornits and offering a solution, you ignorantly and apathetically crack off a sarcastic and self pitty-ridden reply. get over your shit and concentrate on doing some good, instead of bringing everyone down with you.
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You do a shitty job at trying to guilt-trip people. If you don't like what we say, why do you read this forum in the first place? Please, keep the stupidity to a minimum...
-FLCLcowdude
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""FLCLcowdude"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penalty"" ---Your efforts at self-justification for sending your kid away to be abused have been
Please kill yourself immediately.
Thanks,
Fornits management
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what an asshole thing to say. another human reaches out thier hand for help and you slap it away, and play it off as a joke. what an arrogant thing to do. the concerned mother was looking for some help, and instead of being a good representitive of fornits and offering a solution, you ignorantly and apathetically crack off a sarcastic and self pitty-ridden reply. get over your shit and concentrate on doing some good, instead of bringing everyone down with you.
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You do a shitty job at trying to guilt-trip people. If you don't like what we say, why do you read this forum in the first place? Please, keep the stupidity to a minimum...
-FLCLcowdude
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i wasn't trying to guilt trip. i was trying to be honest. we're all about the truth here aren't we? sorry if my "stupid" reply was too much for you to handle, but then again, i wasn't the one telling another to commit suicide.
FLCLcowdude:
Me neither, so don't give me any hookie dookie bullshit...
Antigen:
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I can assure you this person doesn't speak for the real management here at fornits. That person being Ginger.
Rather tasteless that you invoke Ginger's name, no matter how indirectly, in one of your nasty little comments.
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Thank you! I've been plagued w/ various comp/comm problems here lately. Thanks for having my back.
Antigen:
--- Quote from: ""panther1258"" ---If you are at a point where you believe your child's health and safety are at risk then sending them away can be an act of love, not bad parenting. Sorry to have rambled so long, I would appreciate feedback as to the liklihood of truth of access of drugs at HLA and better alternatives, if there are any. Thank you all very much in advance.
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My heart goes out to you, Panther.
Please don't take this the wrong way. At the risk of rambling on a bit myself I'll try to explain myself well enough to sidestep most of the popular misconceptions.
First, even though I think that sending your kid away is one of the most horribly damaging things you can do, I'm not mad at you for it and not judging you for it. My own parents, who I love and respect, made the same mistake... 6 times! And that's just what it was; not a crime or intentional harm, just a monumental mistake.
The nature of that mistake is what I'm interested in talking about these days. As you're starting to figure out, there probably isn't a place on the planet save for an Amish settlement or some such, where you can send someone to keep them away from drugs. And even at that you'd have to be ok with exposure to alcohol and tobacco as the Amish are.
And I think it's not a personal, individual mistake so much as it is a tragic misconception deeply rooted in our culture. See, drugs have been with us always. Never mind the latest wave of fear-mongering from the drug warriors. These new drugs are not a lot different from the old ones. We just keep coming up w/ new and interesting manufacturing techniques and distribution and consumption fads.
Addiction or substance abuse is not a disease. There is no 'treatment' or cure for it. People tend to over-indulge in various euphorics and anelgesics when they hurt a lot. I have no idea what may be bothering your kid and, odds are, he/she can't quite put a finger on it either. But believe me when I tell you that, regardless of the need for independence that most teenagers feel, being sent off by your parents is NOT helpful.
Now about that cultural misconception. This runs deep and wide. It's one of those concepts that's become so thoroughly accepted... well, let me fall back on some old and well an well tried wisdom here:
--- Quote from: ""thomas paine"" ---Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages,
are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour;
a long habit of not thinking a thing WRONG, gives it a superficial
appearance of being RIGHT, and raises at first a formidable outcry
in defense of custom. But the tumult soon subsides.
Time makes more converts than reason.
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Drugs are not that dangerous. They're dangerous, sure. But not AS dangerous, nearly, as withholding natural familial love and affection.
You ARE the world's foremost expert on your kid. There is no other, there's no professional who's better able than you to help your child figure things out. Even though you've fucked up (harsh, I know, but we all really have, it's inevitable) and sometimes feel like a completely lost loser as a parent (join the club, we all do sometimes) you're still one of maybe five people (counting in chosen mentors and other family) who can really help just by simply accepting the kid unconditionally so he or she can rest and sort things out.
Please don't ever underestimate that. That's all my dad did to help me through and I don't think he even knew how important it was. After the whole program thing when I didn't turn into a heroin addicted street walker as they told him I would, he just gave up trying to figure me out and went back to being happy to see me when I turned up.... just being a dad, that's all. I can't explain how that helped, it's not asif he payed my way or gave me any grand wisdom about my problems. We didn't talk about my problems or our past problems or anything. He just was the one person in the world who, no matter what, I knew he'd be happy to see me and always on my side. There is no substitute for that.
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