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Offline Anonymous

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TB Mom's Thread: Split from Experiences
« on: December 11, 2006, 07:50:34 PM »
How long was he in that shitpit?

And don't blame yourself- at least not yet. You can do all the kicking of your own ass after we get done kicking theirs, 'k?

Please be as detailed as possible.

Also, you have access to the forum on www.parentsupportservices.com , right? If you do, please post the username/password you have there (if you didn't sign a binding legal agreement not to do that), so we can take a thorough look at the site.
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2006, 09:55:08 AM »
I am sorry I can not give you access to the BBS.  Even though I am seeing the light, I can not disrespect the parents that are on the BBS.  Before I go off of it, I will let them know why I am pulling my son.
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2006, 10:05:42 AM »
Send them all Private Messages instead. I'll bet dimes to dollars your public post will be deleted inside a day.

And for the love of crap, don't leave your kid in there one more hour than you have to.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2006, 04:28:42 PM »
Mom, what do you mean by "disrepecting" the parents on that website?  Do you think for one moment that 99% of those brainwashed ninnies would listen to you anyway?  YOU failed the program, and YOU didn't get it!

WHEN does your plane leave for Jamacia, lady?

The only person's being disrepected are those children in TB.
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2006, 05:00:54 PM »
Mom will now join the ranks of the Chattering Pigs. Actually an honor.
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2006, 05:31:01 PM »
Its worth a shot posting some links with info to the BBS. It will be yanked in a matter of minutes, I assure you, but that might be long enough to be of help to someone or other.

When Ryan Pink posted that string of links, I happen to be on the board when it hit. I did a quick Copy and Paste; b/c I knew it wouldn't last long. And sure nuff, it was down in a matter of a minute or two. But I had the links - and I began reading. Its been quite an education.

TB mom - feel free to write me. I have what might be some interesting info for you.
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2006, 10:59:29 PM »
Quote from: ""Deborah""
Mom will now join the ranks of the Chattering Pigs. Actually an honor.


What do you mean by that?

aka. TB mom =  jnzmom
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2006, 11:07:34 PM »
I was trying to praise you for speaking out on the torment and abuse.  I am getting my son out!!  He has been there since August  I was reading and thought to post what a great thing everyone is doing and I get hounded on about the situation.  I am on your side and am getting hounded because I respect a group that is brainwashed.  I dont know!!!   They have their own way of thinking etc....   I am not going to disrespect anyone that I dont know their situation.   I was raised that way. So sue me.   I was reaching out.  

I still believe these programs are wrong and I took a chance before I got him out.
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Re: TB Mom
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2006, 11:19:18 PM »
Quote from: ""jnzmom""
Quote from: ""Deborah""
Mom will now join the ranks of the Chattering Pigs. Actually an honor.

What do you mean by that?

aka. TB mom =  jnzmom


Or might be a BMW-bitching, moaning, whiner
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p= ... ing#117119
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http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?p= ... ring#32183
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2006, 11:23:53 PM »
Whatever you do, read this press release and heed the advice of child advocates and survivors (many of whom post on Fornits) who truly care about protecting kids and parents from exploitation and fraud.

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Referral-Free Zone: Buyer Beware of Businesses Exploiting Children and Families

International Survivors Action Committee

9/9/2006 4:02:51

Victims, Moms, and Advocates Join Forces to Expose Fraud and Child Abuse in a Booming Billion Dollar Industry

CONTACT: Shelby Earnshaw

WEB SITE: www.referralfreezone.info

After operating separately for years, a group of survivors, moms, authors, and advocates have joined forces against child abuse in privately operated children?s programs. The group emphasizes that parents looking for family help, especially over the Internet, have no idea that agents and programs are operating without federal oversight.

The ?wolves in sheep?s clothing? begin with the self-described parent ?resource experts? and referral agents. ?No one is federally regulating or reigning in these businesses,? claims Shelby Earnshaw, who operates International Survivor?s Action Committee (ISAC). According to the coalition, the self-described "parent resource expert" or agent may frighten a parent looking for help for his or her child with descriptions of one bad residential program, only to lure the parent into another, from which the so-called "expert" is making big money.

ISAC is a watchdog organization that warns parents, collects evidence, and reports child abuse to authorities about privately operated children?s programs and those who refer to such programs. Ms. Earnshaw should know?she was a victim herself. Now an adult, with a family of her own, Ms. Earnshaw has dedicated her life to exposing the proliferation of fraudulent residential children?s programs. ?Many times the best help for the money is near home. We are here to at least warn parents about the unethical practices of self-described resource experts and referral agents.?

Some referral organizations tout their membership with the Better Business Bureau, claiming they are ?parents helping parents,? while, in fact, they are uneducated in relevant fields of child development or disorders from which children may be suffering. In reality, these Internet savvy companies are marketing experts--making their businesses traps for honest, but unwitting parents.

Thusfar, such businesses are operating with impunity because there are no federal standards by which to regulate and punish them when they go too far. Ms. Earnshaw states, ?It is not uncommon for skilled agents to talk parents into moving their children across state lines and even out of the country. The parents needing help may be under severe pressure and these companies take advantage of the parents? vulnerable state of mind.?

In starkest contrast, the Referral Free Zone is designed to provide information from researchers, authors, advocates, and parents who have no financial interest whatsoever in referring to children?s programs. ?It?s not uncommon for the operators of these programs to lie about the fact they are receiving fees. There are also no federal laws requiring ?parent resource experts? or agents to reveal child abuse or neglect that has occurred at the programs they have just referred someone to?it?s buyer beware, at its height."

One program may refer to another, with the parent not understanding the connection between the two companies. The sites all look very different from one another, giving the appearance they are independent of one another. ?This is an obvious conflict of interest,? says Ms. Earnshaw. ?We know of cases where owners are up on criminal charges or in the middle of criminal investigations for child abuse, but the ?expert or agent? turns a blind eye because they may be friends with the owners and they have been paid. It?s very dangerous for children.?

According to the Referral-Free Zone, the latest trend is to ?appear? to advocate, while referring to another company that earns money. Ms. Earnshaw explains, ?Since people have gotten wind of the for-profit referral business, referrers are now teaming up with ?child advocates.? These ?advocates? will gladly tell you how awful a particular facility is, and direct you to someone who will help you find an alternative, which happens to be a business in which they have an interest in one way or another.?

The Referral-Free Zone only allows dedicated members who do not refer to children?s programs. The coalition is committed to advocating and creating true public awareness about the increasing popularity of using our children as business commodities.

ISAC said the strength of the Referral-Free Zone?s will be through the Internet, books, and films, as well as political and media campaigns. ?Our power is growing and we will not stop until meaningful action is taken to regulate this dangerous private industry. The Referral-Free Zone will unify our efforts to educate and advocate.?

The Referral-Free Zone is found at www.referralfreezone.info

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Also, be sure to check out ISAC's facility and referrer watch list.

http://isaccorp.org/watchlist.asp
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2006, 11:28:54 PM »
So basically... I am a chattering Pig because I am not for this program and want to shout it out to the world?
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2006, 11:34:24 PM »
are you a former student or a former program mom?
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2006, 11:38:39 PM »
Woah, woah!

jnzmom: That was actually a compliment. Deborah was being sarcastic and referring to what the continual program supporters would call you.

Deb: How the fuck is she supposed to know the sarcasm around here?!

He's been there since fucking August? Oh man. Oh.. fuck. Bet you dimes to dollars you're going to be fucking appalled when you see him, and he's not going to like you for leaving him in there four months...
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2006, 11:43:36 PM »
I know understand what she meant. I am not worried he will not like me. He is 14 yrs old and very immature for his age, with a huge IQ. I am hoping he is grateful and loving. He has had majoir issues with anger in the past, which he will now. We will work through them.

Thanks
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« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2006, 12:10:01 AM »
Quote from: ""jnzmom""
I am hoping he is grateful and loving.


Damn, you had me going there for a while.

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