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Anonymous:
Hey, I'm just in this business for the grateful teenage girls.

Antigen:
Ya know, I really wonder if that lack of trust thing is really a disorder or if it's just that we learned enough about human nature to know better? Personally, the best way I've found to deal with it is to just not expect that much from people.

Oz girl:

--- Quote from: ""Cassandra"" ---Ya know, I really wonder if that lack of trust thing is really a disorder or if it's just that we learned enough about human nature to know better? Personally, the best way I've found to deal with it is to just not expect that much from people.
--- End quote ---


Without sounding like Ned Flanders, I would like to think it is a disorder, or at least a learned behaviour. I guess there is a fine line between being savvy and paranoid. Sure people can be shitheads but they can also be downright decent.

Antigen:
Thing is, though, everybody has their breaking point and it's nowhere near as far from where you are as you'd like to think. And then there's the really harrowing reality that people can justify doing anything, and I do mean ANY kind of behavior at all, if it's something you have to do.

Case in point; look at the Aspen restraint video recently posted or the Bay County Boot Camp snuff flick that came out on US and international news affiliates around this time last year. In both cases, the perpetrators knew full well that they were being filmed. Look at their demeanor. Clearly, these people, all of them, believed that what they were doing was The Right Thing®

And you don't have to go into the Twilight Zone realm of fucked up programs for an example. Here's another glaringly obvious one. Most Americans don't think they're racist, do they? Of course not. Check out these two photos and their captions:

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/09/01/191113.php

When the 'news' broke about the rampant rioting, baby raping, murder and mayhem going down in the Super Dome in the aftermath of that storm, the media and public ate it up and swallowed it down and asked for more. I was watching a couple of local blogs from inside the area at the time. Fact is It Simply Didn't Go Down That Way At All! There was one murder and one death due to dehydration and one joker had been shooting at the heliocopters as they flew over. But that happens when the blimp overflies Overtown during Orange Bowl events. No baby rapers, no rampant mass murder. But no one ever questioned the story. It was so easily accepted by all that, when the coroner finally showed up at the super dome, he came with a full staff and 400 body bags. I think there may have been one or two other deaths due to all that duress among all those people. So 2 to 4 bodies, not 4 fucking hundred!

That's what scares me about people the most. Not that they usually or even very frequently intentionally do wrong, but the mighty awesome power of self delusion. Hitler was pretty good at plying just that quirk of human nature, and we all know how that story ended. I wonder how this one will end. I really do...

try another castle:

--- Quote from: ""Oz girl"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Cassandra"" ---Ya know, I really wonder if that lack of trust thing is really a disorder or if it's just that we learned enough about human nature to know better? Personally, the best way I've found to deal with it is to just not expect that much from people.
--- End quote ---

Without sounding like Ned Flanders, I would like to think it is a disorder, or at least a learned behaviour. I guess there is a fine line between being savvy and paranoid. Sure people can be shitheads but they can also be downright decent.
--- End quote ---


As far as I'm concerned, trust has to be EARNED, not expected. Makes me think of that stupid Summit/Lifespring exercise: "I trust you, I don't trust  you, or I don't know if I trust you." We are then made to feel bad if either a lot of people told us they couldn't or didn't know if they could trust us, or if we said that often to others. (As if it was pathological.) We were supposed to trust everyone.

Doesn't mean I am going to assume the worst of everyone, nor do I feel it's a valid justification to micromanage an employee or a child, it just means, like Ginger said, that I'm not going to have huge expectations. It's a boundary issue.

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