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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2006, 06:59:32 PM »
Err, Jena? I wouldn't call our shutdown goals a "hidden" agenda. If it was a hidden agenda, you wouldn't know about it.
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« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2006, 11:12:36 AM »
Gookie:
You are either ignorant or speak from inexperience.  Because anyone who has been there done that KNOWS that the mental health profession is USELESS.  And stays in psychiatric  hospitals are USELESS as well.  Our daughter went to therapist for close to nine years.  Spent several weeks in psych hospitals... which are nothing more than glorified babysitters.  It is true that they slapped a few new labels on her and offered her new and cutting edge psychotropic meds and then sent her home with no answers.

And then throw in our most helpful insurance companies who believed that my child should be cured of her suicidal tendencies in 3 days and capable of remaining safe.  Doesn't matter what the psych doc says ... 3 days stay for suicidal ideation.

Unless you have tried to find help in the world of mental health professionals spare you would not understand the ineptness of the system.
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« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2006, 11:59:42 AM »
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Gookie:
You are either ignorant or speak from inexperience.  Because anyone who has been there done that KNOWS that the mental health profession is USELESS.  And stays in psychiatric  hospitals are USELESS as well.  Our daughter went to therapist for close to nine years.  Spent several weeks in psych hospitals... which are nothing more than glorified babysitters.  It is true that they slapped a few new labels on her and offered her new and cutting edge psychotropic meds and then sent her home with no answers.

And then throw in our most helpful insurance companies who believed that my child should be cured of her suicidal tendencies in 3 days and capable of remaining safe.  Doesn't matter what the psych doc says ... 3 days stay for suicidal ideation.

Unless you have tried to find help in the world of mental health professionals spare you would not understand the ineptness of the system.


HES WORKED IN PROGRAMS FOR YEARS, DUMBASS!!!

Inexperience my pale white ass.
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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2006, 12:06:08 PM »
Quote from: ""A Capo Named Gookie""
Pale?


I'm white as casper?
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2006, 12:15:30 PM »
:roll:

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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2006, 02:31:18 PM »
Ey Gookie I think we should get into this racket outselves!

Knock some edcons around a little, make them pay some protection money, maybe do our own escorts into the rivuh, eh?

I'll "motivate" a few paisanos if you know what I mean
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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2006, 05:33:15 PM »
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Gookie:

And then throw in our most helpful insurance companies who believed that my child should be cured of her suicidal tendencies in 3 days and capable of remaining safe.  Doesn't matter what the psych doc says ... 3 days stay for suicidal ideation.
Unless you have tried to find help in the world of mental health professionals spare you would not understand the ineptness of the system.


I am wondering how this works. Is a hospital more expensive that a tbs school even without the insurance? I would think that even if the monthly fees are higher the kid would be there for less long. Or are hospitals exorbidantly expensive?
As to the my child was killing thmselves with booze argument, This gets idea that the kid would be dead gets bandied around a lot. Yet few american kids have died of alcoholism recently. But lets say the kid in indeed a raging alcoholic, it seems that few schools specialise in any one thing so how they can treat the booze hound and the deprressed kid for 2 completely different conditions using the same therapy needs to be questioned. How does that work?
The reason why tthe thanksgiving panicker and parents of that ilk disgust me is because they seem to be using a private family issue to publically badmouth their own offspring. it is all very oh poor me. In the event that the kid is really still stuggling and the parent is not just being hysterical, then why should their difficulties be put on the www for anyone to judge and comment on? If i genuinely had an addiction I dont think i would be able to trust my family if they gave the whole world my story. What posts like this are saying is- feel sorry for me because my kid is ruining my life and that of my family. Not have compassion for my kid because i just want to see them happy.
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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2006, 06:33:28 PM »
Hey, when you figure out why they post their kids probs on the internet, go take a look around at the Jonestowners at struggling teens and see what their motivation is.

 :o
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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2006, 06:55:36 PM »
dont listen to them theyre full of it
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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2006, 07:28:25 PM »
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Hey, when you figure out why they post their kids probs on the internet, go take a look around at the Jonestowners at struggling teens and see what their motivation is.

 :o
Trying to make sense of it all ?? That's why I post there, I don't really find anyone but the people who have experienced the same to be particularly understanding, same reason I post here too - and strangers are easier to talk to
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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2006, 07:49:22 PM »
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Hey, when you figure out why they post their kids probs on the internet, go take a look around at the Jonestowners at struggling teens and see what their motivation is.

 :o
Trying to make sense of it all ?? That's why I post there, I don't really find anyone but the people who have experienced the same to be particularly understanding, same reason I post here too - and strangers are easier to talk to

It is another way of saying don't drink the special "Kool Aid".
okay....can yopu explain this, it must be an American thing or something, i don't understand
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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2006, 08:13:07 PM »
Before you listen, be warned the audio tapes are chilling and not something you will be forgetting anytime soon.   :o
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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2006, 08:34:58 PM »
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Before you listen, be warned the audio tapes are chilling and not something you will be forgetting anytime soon.   :o
No audio tapes, just loads of gumph I haven't got the attention span to be abe to read through right now, I'l just take your word for it that it's not wise to drink the kool aid

Hey is this the mass suicide/murder of a whole town on the say so of their leader? Where the one guy was found standing who didn't take the drink?
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« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2006, 09:47:25 PM »
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Before you listen, be warned the audio tapes are chilling and not something you will be forgetting anytime soon.   :o
No audio tapes, just loads of gumph I haven't got the attention span to be abe to read through right now, I'l just take your word for it that it's not wise to drink the kool aid

Hey is this the mass suicide/murder of a whole town on the say so of their leader? Where the one guy was found standing who didn't take the drink?


Yeah this is a reference to Jim Jones and the Strychnine kool-aid.

yeah.. you could say it's not wise to drink it.  :rofl:
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« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2006, 11:58:09 AM »
My point was the Strugglin' "turkeys" as we call them bought into the whole program dogma/mantra/what-have-you hook, line and sinker, and a lot of them becuase they really wanted to!

I'll put it in quotes so you dont think I'm saying this to YOU.. I dont want the tone of this to be lost in translation, though.

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Their dogma is that the kid is always 100% fucking wrong for everything, they're recalcitrant little ingrate shits who didn't appreciate all you did for them, even if it was merely open your knees for a few minutes and squeeze them out a few months later and hire a nanny!

Furthermore, YOU ARE THE VICTIM!!! The kid is just a mean little cretin who has to have his will broken to learn to appreciate you and all you've done for and given to them, and you're a stoic little princess who'se caught up in all of it and has to have 'support' for doing the hard thing, sending them away - and its a hard thing to do, and because its a hard thing to do, they need it, and so do you!

Then, the HEALING can begin when they're forced to face whats really going on and admit they are satans spawn (but you're not satan, of course, you're perfect!) and learn to be little stepford robots for you. They have to face accountability and cry and "let it all out" in some seminars or whatever the hell they call the LGATs in thier specific program for a few months, and you get a few of the same, isn't that nice?

Then when the kid comes out and begs permission like a trained poodle to use the bathroom and to wipe his ass (every time he does, of course) you know that your little program child is finally ready to do the last seminars, you pay your last 15,000 dollars and he finally comes home, but if you're afraid to face him you can send him to an AFTERCARE PROGRAM! Hell, you can send him wherever the fuck you wish until he's 18, then ditch his ass and get their full support for 'doing the right thing' for your family and yourself! ;)


That's the 'punch' they drink. I'm not saying YOU as in... you, specifically, I'm saying how they would present it to you. And yes there awas a lot of sarcasm and scathing... venom in my tone.
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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."