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ft.laud. seed '82-'85-looking for other seedling survivors
Anonymous:
What land do you live in Antigen?
Antigen:
If your argument has no legs, you can always fall back on insults and ad hominems, eh?
May the fleas of one thousand llamas infest your armpits
--One ticked off sysadmin
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Anonymous:
People who feel that the program was basically benign seem to think that as long as the kid came out not doing drugs then it was worth whatever "hardships" they had to endure. Ya know, the end justifies the means kind of thing. It's the same sort of thing I used to hear when I left aftercare and accused others of being brainwashed. They're typical response was something to the effect of 'well, if that's what it takes to clean out my brain then so be it'. Antigen hit it on the head. The whole POINT of behavior modification (in this sense of the term) is to break down the old "habits" or lifestyles and then build them back up in whatever guru's image of a good kid is. For those who haven't gotten the memo.....IT'S NEVER, EVER, EVER A GOOD THING TO BREAK A KID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How can anyone NOT see this???? It amazes me when I see posts that acknowlege the abuse but justify it as...oh, I needed it at the time, I was in a lot of trouble. :roll: :roll: :roll: If we were all left to our own devices during our teen years most would have eventually grown out of it and become successful, some wouldn't and some would fall in between. Parents can't yank a kid out of everything they're familiar with and then use their love as a weapon to be given and withheld per the behavior of the child and expect a good outcome. Combine that with the "game" aspect of Synanon that Seed and it's followers engaged in. What a depraved undertaking. All the excuses in the world don't cut it with this one. Kids with 200 - 300 other kids fighting over who gets to scream at him and call him a bunch of names until he realizes his mistake. Yeah, that's healthy!! :roll: Oh....wait!!! I forgot, it's all OK cause we told 'em we loved 'em and it was all for their own good :roll:
Cleopatra2U:
Well said, Anon. :nworthy:
Antigen:
--- Quote ---On 2004-11-21 19:45:00, Anonymous wrote:
'well, if that's what it takes to clean out my brain then so be it'. Antigen hit it on the head.
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Thanks, but I didn't come up w/ it. I remember hearing my parents and other say it when I was a kid. And I heard it more recently, too. A couple of years ago, one of my friends was cold calling down an old host homes list letting people know about an upcoming conference. One of the parents actually screamed that to her; "Well, you kids needed a good brainwashing!"
Tehe therapeutic community method is very, very effective! Not the least bit therapeutic, mind you. But astoundingly effective to some people.
As men's prayers are a disease of the will, so are their creeds a disease of the intellect.
--Ralph Waldo Emerson, American essayist, poet, philosopher
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