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« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2004, 10:05:00 PM »
I was there  from 83to 89
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2004, 12:02:00 AM »
83 to 89. Holy smokes, that is a long time to be at the seed. Tell us more. Why so long? Are you still in touch, On what terms did you leave?


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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2004, 10:11:00 PM »
The seed kids that married and did not have children were the ones that were still living at the seed in the late 80's.
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2004, 10:18:00 PM »
I was there during those years and I think I know who you are. I'll be more than happy to talk to you if you want. Post me and i'll get back to you
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2004, 12:44:00 PM »
What You Talking About Willis
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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2004, 01:58:00 PM »
I'm looking for a friend of mine who was at the seed around the 80's his name was Corky anyone know what happened to him? He was a good friend
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2004, 10:00:00 PM »
I was there between 82 and 85.  The experience was unique.  It helped me.  But my success does not take away from the fact that the seed was a cult and that its main technique was brainwashing.  No matter how you dress it up - it is still brainwashing.  

The staff would always say that when you graduate that you can go anywhere and do anything.  The problem was that when you graduated the staff would pressure you to stay.  The pressure was great. Many people unfortanetly stayed much longer than they should have. The staff were hypocrits and should not have pressured people that obviously looked to them for guidance.  

I always found it strange that you had to get permission in order to date.  And even to marry.  The most strange is the mysterious coincidence that all seed marriages taking place after 86' (which were quite a few) produced no children.  
This is just wrong. To manipulate people to force them not to have children should be a crime.  

I would like to hear from others who were at the seed around 83, 84, and 85.
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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2004, 10:19:00 PM »
What ever happed to Mary V.?
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2004, 07:45:00 PM »
I always found it strange that at the end of a beach day, that we all had to sit on the sand, while Art sat on a beach chair.  The push to place Art above and before everything else was always apparent and too weird.  It still bothers me that the staff and rap leaders would go out of their way to quote Art as if they were quoting Jesus of Nazareth.  The program could have been just as effective without trying to make Art an idol which requires constant worship - like they do in the closed off society of North Korea.  

I am sure that at the beginning there could have been a genuine desire to help children who turned to drugs.  But I would have to agree with others that after 1982, if not sooner, the program was nothing more than a power trip for Art and his inner circle.  More later . . . . .
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« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2004, 06:51:00 PM »
okay , I know that some of us posting here were at the seed during the same time, I was there from '82-'85. I was the original poster. I am very interested in finding out how others have faired, and to put the past where it belongs , behind us.As a tool to learn from. I don't want to break anyone's anonymity, I will use initials. M.V., N.Z., K.P.,N.?., I am wondering where you are.
IM-AB from '82
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« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2004, 09:02:00 AM »
MaVa is doing fine last I heard still beautiful as ever- NoZa was married to a Veterinarian & has a daughter- KaPu moved back to Ohio I havn't heard- N? don't know who that is and I cant figure out who you are( lM-AB ?????
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« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2004, 09:48:00 AM »
and I can't figure out who either of you are. You can still retain your anon status and choose a user name. It would be easier to sort out who is posting what, so please, when you get a chance, choose a user name and.....

Tell us a seed story!
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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2004, 08:11:00 PM »
I aM A.B. , or I was then , I am now married for 16+yrs., with two fantastic children,sorry to be somewhat cryptic.
   N.Z. was my oldcomer, she was amazing to me. I was devasted when she left. I was an oldcomer when M.V. came to the front row... I bought Bob K.'s car from him and we named it 'Tyrone' the car was truly 'classic' a huge boat that was cobalt blue with with a white top, birds used to hang-out in the trunk when we went grocery shopping.  K.P. was my oldcomer as well, glad to hear she is well.

    for years I would have nightmares of being back in Florida, trapped, with no contact with my family. The 'program' did not know how to let go of any of us. I felt so lost when I ran-away, I had been conditioned to beleive that everyone/anyone outside the seed was an asshole, especailly my family.It took me along time to find my own center and voice, I had been striped bare by all of the brain-warping raps, peer pressure, and I love you athons.
    Stories, I have tons, Singing at Christmas, Tea for two-2,000 times!!!!, Going to see the shrink in Miami and stopping at a cuban bakery on the way back and buying sweets for the group not realizing that there was rum ion the pastries til everyone had eaten them!!!!!Cleaning,cleaning the smell of Murphy's oil soap. Playing Football at Dania Beach for hours, eating french fries from the beach restaurant. The crazy neighbors we had, he was so hoping we were all lesbians, he would spy on our pool.
    Cindy & Johns Wedding. Being hypnotsed as a group, I could go on...Which house did you live in ? I lived with Ginger/n.v., k.p., diane.
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« Reply #28 on: February 29, 2004, 02:16:00 PM »
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Which house did you live in...


I did a search a few years ago on Broward County properties owned by Art, Shelly, Libby and/or The Seed and found a few. I assumed they were using them to house group members. Was I right? And are you saying that they ditched the "foster home" system where newcomers and out of towners spent their nights in the homes of local oldcomer parents?
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« Reply #29 on: February 29, 2004, 02:17:00 PM »
Woops! That was me. Sorry.

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