Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
WWASP Experiences
Miss Antsy Pam:
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--- Quote from: "Guest" ---Yes. Listen to Oscar and his rotten toothed, sees his parents 2ce a year, doesn't mind when his parents and coworkers die, and wishes to die "deep inside" (just "like everyone" in his country) wisdom on interpersonal relations!
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Cultures are different around the world. I guarantee Italians or Greeks would be offering different advice than him, for instance (famous for extended families). It doesn't make any way of running a family better or worse, just different. Generally, the more northern you go in Europe, the colder people are, and the more southern, the warmer... Actually I think that's mostly worldwide. I think weather has a lot to do with both culture and the temperament of different peoples.
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Psy makes an interesting point, that many people might miss, pertaining to cultural differences and how extended and clannish families that operate differently that regular old middle American families handle their business. You could describe my family as a mix of Italian and Syrian cultures...with the Catholic ideology. In simple terms, we act like a big Italian family and are ALL very close, as we were ALL raised together. Do we have problems? Yes, just like any other large extended families. Do we all agree on everything...NO, but we support the decisions of the members of the family and offer assistance, even when we DON''T necessarily agree with an action or inaction.
Culturally we ARE different as Psy so eloquently described. We were not raised to abandon our teenagers or young adults at 18 (through 4 generations). We "step-up" and offer emotional and financial assistance to ALL family members, young and old. We try to take care of our own and to come from a place of "love & understanding"...even when we DON'T understand! We don't condemn just because we MIGHT NOT understand. This is a life long process
I have always been the rogue in my family & chose to live life differently with my son since I don't always agree with the methods my family uses to resolve issues, but I always keep n mind that they are coming from a place of "love"...as they see it! We are all tainted by our own belief systems. I was under the impression that 18 was a magic number and that Dylan would need to be on his own and NOT living in the family home, which he was doing at that point in his life. He left at 17 and went to live with his girlfriend...much to my dismay! But, hey, we all need to do what we have to do to find our own path in the world.
Periodically, I have let him come home to re-group, but he is OUT the minute OUR relationship becomes abusive. I offered him a chance to come home for 2008, in order to give him an opportunity to learn the "life skills" he will need to go forward with his life once I am gone...hopefully, he will get it before I am gone. Sure, we have times of unrest, but we try to work through them
I would also like to apologize for the incorrect posting of the link to my weblog. I had inadvertently added an extra "m" to my user name...my apologies as this was not what I expected to be dealing with on Christmas Day. Here is the correct link... http://www.xanga.com/pammy8462. My blog is now secure and you will have to register in order to view my "public" blogs. No to sound harsh, but my parenting skills, however lacking, are not there to be judged, but if you feel you must...go ahead.
What the others have said is true...there was ONLY 1 person who had the link to my blog and they know who they are. I will not lower myself to a level to even confront that person...THEY know what they did and it was done out of sheer boredom and/or petty vindictiveness.
Yes, there have been "guests" and "registered users" that have posted on my behalf and I thank them is their desire to defend me or to give an accurate picture of what my family has been through during 2007-2008. The one guest that posted 2 complete blog entries..with dates and posted in their entirety, was my sister in law who was quite upset by reading this thread and other like it
Like many who have said this before...can't we just end this thread and keep the focus on the work that needs to be done?
FemanonFatal2.0:
--- Quote from: "Miss Antsy Pam" ---Like many who have said this before...can't we just end this thread and keep the focus on the work that needs to be done?
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Well being that this thread is titled "WWASP experiences" I dont think it would be fair to "end the thread" on account of a few vindictive assholes, However I am in favor of encouraging new comers to feel free to use this thread as it was originally conceived to share their personal experiences within the WWASP system.
In fact if anyone would like to hear it Ill go ahead and share mine. Just give me a few days to write it out...
Miss Antsy Pam:
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--- Quote from: "Miss Antsy Pam" ---Like many who have said this before...can't we just end this thread and keep the focus on the work that needs to be done?
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Well being that this thread is titled "WWASP experiences" I dont think it would be fair to "end the thread" on account of a few vindictive assholes, However I am in favor of encouraging new comers to feel free to use this thread as it was originally conceived to share their personal experiences within the WWASP system.
In fact if anyone would like to hear it Ill go ahead and share mine. Just give me a few days to write it out...
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I stand corrected by Femanon, this IS a thread for WWASP Experiences and I would love to hear about others with WWASP Expereinces. I look forward to you posting your story Femanon!
HAPPY NEW YEAR to ALL!
CCM girl 1989:
Gosh it was so long ago!!!! Let's see.......I was sent at the age of 12 to Heritage School in Provo, UT. on January 16th, 1986 (not a wwasp school). I was then transferred to Cross Creek in La Verkin, UT. sometime in May of 1989. I spent about 9 months there until I ran away on February 14th, 1990. How would I describe my stay there? Lovely, j/k lol!!! Let's see, I think they could have done things way better considering what our parents were spending. But, this was when the schools were just starting. They weren't very organized, and the program and the rules seemed to change daily making it hard to follow the rules.
The staff were not very nice. They were short tempered, and really seemed to enjoy the power of being able to punish us. We had a lot of differences. I think the fact that the majority of them were from local Mormon families, made things extremely difficult. The way they grew up was very different then how most of us grew up. I think they pretty much thought we were Satan's children, lol!!!
I liked the fact they offered therapy. I looked forward to that every week. It was my hour to be able to vent all my anger and frustration about my years away from home. Once I was 16 my therapist basically told me that I was never going home, and that I was going to be there until my 18 birthday. I think the reason he did this was because he ran out of excuses why my parents weren't allowing me to come home. I was always trying my best to work on things, and not get into trouble. I thought it was my fault that I was still there, and that it was because I was just not trying hard enough. I think the staff thought I deserved to be there. I could see why. Especially because there were times I would have incidents of hurting myself or others (usually staff). But, how the hell could you blame me??? I was put into these institutions, and basically forgotten about. For no real good reason I might add.
So, I took matters into my own hands. I took a vacuum cord and found the only window without an alarm, and flung it out the window. I almost broke my neck getting out of there, and the burns to my hands from the vacuum cord ripping through them was very painful. Did I tell you I landed right in front of a late night staff meeting in progress? Yep. Sure did! I guess they had waited until we were all in bed to have this meeting. Let me tell you how fun it was to feel the pain of the impact in the parking lot from the jump, then having to get up and run for my life!!!! It was funny seeing the look of shock, then them bolting out of their seats to get to the front door to come chasing after me!!!!!!!
They never did catch me. So, I lived a year on my own in St. George before my Aunt and Uncle found me. I then moved to California to live with them so I could graduate high school. I learned a lot from them. My 3 cousins became my brothers and sisters. I can't tell you how nice it was to finally be a part of a family who loved, and cared about me. From time to time I would make bad choices, but that is all a part of growing up. I take that back! Actually that's just a part of life!!!!!
So, Happy New Year to all of you! I'm really looking forward to being done with 2008, and getting on with 2009.
Anonymous:
I can honestly say WWASP saved my life. I was mad when I first was sent and even when I got out, but I learned over time after talking to my parents in depth about their choice why it really was their only option in dealing with me. I suppose I'm different from the few bitter alumni who post here because my parents really loved me, and weren't just using the program to abandon me. I did some bad things, and was not a helpful member of our family. I learned that if I wanted and deserved respect and love, I had to earn it. I feel bad for the people who's parents just left them in the program for no reason, but you can't blame WWASP for that, it sounds like a family problem. I know this isn't a popular opinion around here, but it's the God honest truth. I know for a fact if my parents had not intervened in my life, I would of ended up a bad person, and who knows where I'd be today, probably in a gutter with a needle in my arm. I don't think I"m going to go into detail though- I've read this forum and see how you people love to tear each other apart. I think fornits is worse than any program really, having seen both.
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