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Problems at Hyde School
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: "gary eskow"...In general I would feel comfortable speaking with people who are willing to identify themselves...
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Gary, I'm just jumping in on the conversation here (I'm not the previous poster)... Just wanted to address the issue of anonymity...
Some years ago, I began receiving some alumni-oriented mail out of the blue. I had left Hyde under a black cloud, so this was a bit of a surprise. Most of the mail was the usual fund-raising fare; you can imagine my disgust given the circumstances. However, one of the pieces was an alumni newsletter, which I began to scan out of curiosity... It was with no small horror that I read, in print, about my (allegedly) having contacted the school and having written to them various details about myself and my then current circumstances, and that I wished to correspond with my former classmates. Mind you, I had never ever contacted the school, and have still not, to this day, decades later. The desire of sueing for libel crossed my mind at the time, but it's a little like responding to spam: you'll never get rid of them then...
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gary eskow:
Gary, I'm just jumping in on the conversation here (I'm not the previous poster)... Just wanted to address the issue of anonymity...
Some years ago, I began receiving some alumni-oriented mail out of the blue. I had left Hyde under a black cloud, so this was a bit of a surprise. Most of the mail was the usual fund-raising fare; you can imagine my disgust given the circumstances. However, one of the pieces was an alumni newsletter, which I began to scan out of curiosity... It was with no small horror that I read, in print, about my (allegedly) having contacted the school and having written to them various details about myself and my then current circumstances, and that I wished to correspond with my former classmates. Mind you, I had never ever contacted the school, and have still not, to this day, decades later. The desire of sueing for libel crossed my mind at the time, but it's a little like responding to spam: you'll never get rid of them then...
I understand!
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""gary eskow"" ---"You say that Joe Gauld deserves credit for his idea but that he is abusive. I'm very intrigued by the controversy surrounding Hyde. What specifically was Gauld's "good idea"? In what ways is he abusive?"
In general I would feel comfortable speaking with people who are willing to identify themselves...
I will say this: founding a school that favors the development of character more than grades or rigid discipline sounds like a good idea to me! Perhaps others did so before Mr. Gauld, but regardless, I credit him with the resolve to bring his vision of secondary education into being.
Breaking down vulnerable kids- even if you're foolish enough to believe that it will lead to their healing- strikes me as abusive.
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Merry Christmas,
Yes Joe deserves credit. I believe Hyde was the first of it's kind.
I have talked to a couple of people that were in the school leadership, from my days in Bath. I am surprised at some of the vehiment anti Joe stuff that I got from them. I am not talking about hyde failures I am talking about kids that were paraded around as examples of the fime work that Hyde does. I was shocked to hear Joe described as "toxic" by one. I was surprised because this kid was a poster child.
I had a couple of bad experiences with Joe, but I actually like him as a person. At the same time I am concerned that from what I can glean, he is doing thing that may be bad for the current students and no one on staff has the , pardon the venacular, balls to ask him to stop.
gary eskow:
Yes Joe deserves credit. I believe Hyde was the first of it's kind.
I have talked to a couple of people that were in the school leadership, from my days in Bath. I am surprised at some of the vehiment anti Joe stuff that I got from them. I am not talking about hyde failures I am talking about kids that were paraded around as examples of the fime work that Hyde does. I was shocked to hear Joe described as "toxic" by one. I was surprised because this kid was a poster child.
I had a couple of bad experiences with Joe, but I actually like him as a person. At the same time I am concerned that from what I can glean, he is doing thing that may be bad for the current students and no one on staff has the , pardon the venacular, balls to ask him to stop.
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A pity, isn't it? Unfortunately, most people who have passed through Hyde seem to have morphed into adoring acolytes or are blinded by bitterness. You are an exception!
Having endured so much within my family and emerged at peace, my job, as I see it, is to find appropriate vehicles to give back a portion of that which has been given to me. Jumping on this blog to see if there's anyone who might get some small benefit from my experience is just one of the things I'm doing.
Enjoy the rest of your holiday season.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""gary eskow"" ---"You say that Joe Gauld deserves credit for his idea but that he is abusive. I'm very intrigued by the controversy surrounding Hyde. What specifically was Gauld's "good idea"? In what ways is he abusive?"
In general I would feel comfortable speaking with people who are willing to identify themselves...
I will say this: founding a school that favors the development of character more than grades or rigid discipline sounds like a good idea to me! Perhaps others did so before Mr. Gauld, but regardless, I credit him with the resolve to bring his vision of secondary education into being.
Breaking down vulnerable kids- even if you're foolish enough to believe that it will lead to their healing- strikes me as abusive.
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Merry Christmas,
Yes Joe deserves credit. I believe Hyde was the first of it's kind.
I have talked to a couple of people that were in the school leadership, from my days in Bath. I am surprised at some of the vehiment anti Joe stuff that I got from them. I am not talking about hyde failures I am talking about kids that were paraded around as examples of the fime work that Hyde does. I was shocked to hear Joe described as "toxic" by one. I was surprised because this kid was a poster child.
I had a couple of bad experiences with Joe, but I actually like him as a person. At the same time I am concerned that from what I can glean, he is doing thing that may be bad for the current students and no one on staff has the , pardon the venacular, balls to ask him to stop.
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I'm not sure that I would call indulging one's own predilection for theatrics at the expense of others' psyches to be construed as "having balls," let alone courage, but perhaps I am missing something. I think if Joe were TRULY honest with himself, and HONESTLY dedicated in bringing out the best in kids' potential, he would alter his methods accordingly. But I don't see that kind of flexibility or capacity to adjust coming in our lifetimes... Personally, and with all due respect, I don't think he has the balls he was born with. Its just all one big power trip, sprinkled with some undoubtedly and genuine good intentions.
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