Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Just my opinion...
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Then what do you propose you do with the kids who beat the hell out of someone with a metal lock in a sock just for kicks. Remember, he has been through a ton of therapy already from many different counselors. What do you do to change the kid who does this and shows no remorse?
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You sure as hell don't put him in a program that isn't trained to handle someone with that type of behavior.
http://www.ridgecreek.org/programoverview.htm
Who is this program for?
Ridge Creek students represent a broad spectrum of adolescent struggles, ranging from those simply needing to re-focus to those experiencing significant behavioral difficulties. The majority of our students exhibit behaviors that fit the profile of Oppositional Defiant Disorder, though they do not have to be diagnosed as such. Ridge Creek students may struggle with issues of authority and adolescent adjustment. They may exhibit a pattern of negative of negative, hostile, and oppositional defiant behavior. These students lose their temper, argue, actively defy or refuse to comply with adults? rules or requests. They will deliberately ignore people, blame others for their mistakes or misbehavior, are touchy and easily annoyed by others. They also may appear angry, resentful, spiteful, or vindictive. These behaviors significantly impair social, academic or occupational functioning.
Ridge Creek does not accept adjudicated students, or those who are diagnosed with Conduct Disorders or Antisocial Personality Disorders. It is not a ?boot-camp? type program, nor is Ridge Creek designed to substitute for long-term therapeutic interventions.
That's from the horse's mouth so to say.
Anonymous:
It is very sad that people, can have such nasty things to say about, two very wonderful people, I have known Tamara for most of my life and as for Mark ever since they have been married, I have seen him come home upset about a child that needs help and I have heard Tamara cry over some of these lost children. The parents that are posting, get on your knees and thank god your child is still alive and with you. Tamara lost her child and therefore has a deep concern for any child. they are genuine!! caring people!!
I am not saying HLA or RC, should not account for a lot of stuff, but put the blame where it needs to be.
Anonymous:
(This reply is to the guest at the end of page 2)
What do I do? I hire him. I have uses for kids like that.
You're from HLA so you don't have any business saying that he already had therapy. What he needs is real therapy, not HLA therapy. A way to work off his violent urges without actually killing anyone, and possibly a mentor who's been in his position and can absorb his hatred without reflecting it. Alternatively we can tie you to a stake and let him beat the hell out of you. I think that'd make him (and the rest of us) feel a lot better.
That and a good, solid MRI scan and possibly some antipsychotics.
But really, what's the point in using real psychiatric techniques when you can just dismiss him as incurable when your bullshit has the opposite effect?
Anonymous:
I didn't mean therapy at HLA. I meant a lot of therapy BEFORE HLA that did no good. I started this out saying that he should not have been there in the first place. This kid was too far gone for HLA. If you want to hire people like that, be my guest. The "just give them a fair chance and things will work out" approach will not work on kids like this. If want to do then go ahead, but I hope you have insurance. You will need it.
Anonymous:
You misunderstand the nature of what I'd like to hire him for, but that's okay. (Think: What would someone with my name presumably want a kid like that to DO? Additional hint: You don't know irony or sarcasm when you see them.)
Again, you're not qualified to say that he had suitable therapy. The "we tried everything" line is heard all over this board, and it's almost always crap. You wouldn't even know what therapy is. You're too busy shoving a screaming nutjob like Mark Keith.. hold up a sec. Let me make my position clear, as it directly derives from the statements of the known non-shills on this board.
Mark Keith is a screaming nutjob.
Shoving someone like that into a violent kid's face is just going to make things worse, and you can't acknowledge that simple fact.
Odds are, there's something organically wrong with him (Mark Keith or the kid? Both!) that no one ever bothered to diagnose. Has anyone taken a serious look at his brain? Looked for deep-seated triggers in his psyche? Do you even know what makes him angry or why he doesn't care about other people? Of course not. Odds are no one at HLA does. You passed him to.. a real psychiatric facility? Probably not. I'm guessing you passed him to somewhere else that isn't going to care, either.
But you'll continue to spew bullshit on this board about how telling kids that they're worthless is going to make them somehow more amenable to HLA "therapy".
Don't bother.
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