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Just my opinion...

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FLCLcowdude:
I beat up someone and had to deal with Mark Keith... There is no excuse for "worthless little fucker" and "Why my parents should have thrown me away" and Why he should "rip off my head and shit down my throat"


Do you see my point? Good...

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""youtr"" ---TO the bold citizen that called Mark Keith a "fucker".  Ignorance is rampant in this world and you, fine citizen, are proof of that fact.  Mark Keith has saved more lives than I can imagine, he has HONORABLY served in the US Army, and basically he has done more than the author of that comment could ever imagine or achieve.
The Keiths are wonderful, caring people.  I am grateful for their generosity ang overall concern for others.
--- End quote ---


Spoken like a true cheerleader.  The FACT remains that Mr. Keith allowed and even participated in behavior that is not appropriate in a JCAHO accredited facility.  Hence the ORS findings.  To my knowledge this thread isn't about his personality, simply is ethics and ability to function in his lead role at RCI.  His HONORABLE service in the US Army while admirable has no relevance or bearing here.  Stick with the facts not feelings.  With that said I don't really condone calling him a "fucker" either.  Again, fact vs. feeling.

Deborah:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Let me preface this with saying that I really like Mark Keith and I think he has done an amazing job at transforming many kids life in a positive way.  That being said, Mark does not look good on paper.  He often has his own way of doing things that does not fit into what you would call "traditional therapy".  If you break it down within the system beuracratic rules he does not look good and I am sure he couldn't care less.  When he has a kid sent to him who has beaten the hell out of some student at HLA with a lock in a sock (one of those innapropriate HLA placements) Mark makes of point of making that kids life a living hell for a few days, and I have no problem with that.  No ammount of traditional therapy is going to help a kid like that.  If it would help, it would've helped long before that point.  So my point is...yes, Mark Keith looks like a non caring to son of a bitch to people who want to paint him in that light and I am sure he doesn't care.  My point is also that Mark has reached some kids that teams of traditional counselors never could.
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Does the kid you described belong at HLA?
"Locks in socks" is a little more than ODD and low self-esteem. That isn't even hazing, it's assault with a deadly weapon.
They called those "sock parties" at my older son's military school- the one sued for abuse and lack of adequate adult supervision. And those hoodlums only used bar soap.

Are "sternum rubs" part of the non-traditional 'therapy' he provides? Or a new massage technique?
Now, that's an idea, nothing like a massage to melt tensions and frustration, to build closeness and trust. Perhaps they should add that to their 'therapeutic' techniques. I imagine that the majority of the kids there are touch deprived. If not before, certainly after they arrive. They could start by putting Keith in charge of the (((hug and rub))) team- every kid gets a minimum of 3 hugs a day, and a good firm foot rub while Keith spins Mt Ranger war tales, just like grandpa.

I disagree that the only way to reach an angry, hopeless kid is through physical and verbal assault. That's barbaric and antiquated thinking. Love and reasonable limits. Institutions can't provide the former, or the latter for that matter. It's like everyday is crisis management cause they're dealing with a bunch of anger kids warehoused and none of them getting their 'real' needs met.

RobertBruce:
Hugs and Rubs?

Oh Jesus.

Anonymous:
Deborah,

No the kid mentioned did not belong at HLA and Buccellato knew it.  He had no business being there at all.  The kid had also been through a ton of therapy before coming to HLA and none of it worked.  He could not go home because he would have been a danger to his family.  He really needed to be in prison.  I have no problem with him getting a dose of Mark Keith since everything else had failed and the next option would have been jail for a very long time.  Obviously Mark's way of doing things is not best for all kids.  He would be the first to tell you that.  But when you have certain kids, usually ones who should have never been at HLA in the first place, that all other options have failed other than jail then I think he is very effective.  For those kids, the time for love and limits is gone.  Again, this is a very small ammount of kids, but there are some that are in that position.

And yes, I think Dr.  Buccellato sent kids on interventions that had no business going on one.  It was an easy out for Len much of the time.

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