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What about Ridge Creek?
« on: November 07, 2006, 01:14:10 PM »
HLA and Ridge Creek are supposedly seperate entities yet HLA has apparently been improperly sending kids up to Ridge Creek. They got busted for doing "interventions" without following their own admintance procedures.

Check out the investigations and the thorough follow up.

http://167.193.144.170:7001/ORSINV/facs ... =OTP001022
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What about Ridge Creek?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2006, 01:25:52 PM »
I just want to say what a massive resource that site is for Fornits members. Go poking around for a while, not just HLA...
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Re: What about Ridge Creek?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2006, 03:11:10 PM »
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HLA and Ridge Creek are supposedly seperate entities yet HLA has apparently been improperly sending kids up to Ridge Creek. They got busted for doing "interventions" without following their own admintance procedures.

Check out the investigations and the thorough follow up.

http://167.193.144.170:7001/ORSINV/facs ... =OTP001022


Did "Interventions" really discontinue in May 2006?
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2006, 03:34:59 PM »
Doubtful. They probably just told ORS they stopped doing "interventions" and simply came up with a new name for it. . Anything to stay one step ahead of ol' Johnny Law.

"Stop manipulating or we'll send you on an "intervention" errr ummm I mean a...."wake up call"...yeah that's what they're called. Something totally different."
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2006, 07:30:05 PM »
Sept 2006
This survey is to investigate self-reported GA 00037316.

Based on staff interview the camp failed to provide campers with
a dental examination by a license dentist or a dental hygienist
working under the supervision of a licensed dentist findings
include: During interview with the Director via telephone on
September 26, 2006 he revealed the dental exams are done by a
license hygienist, however she is not supervised by a license
dentist.  In addition the Director revealed the camp will look for
another option to provide for this need.


August 2006
33 pages of Violations. That has to set an all-time record. In addition to numerous violations of record keeping (below):

*on record review and staff interview the camp failed to report hospitalization and possible abuse within 48 hours. The findings include: Record review of Student Case Notes for Camper #4, dated 08/08/2006 revealed he had been hospitalized and stated he was being beaten at the camp and was given a sternum rub. An interview with the Director on August 16, 2006,  revealed he was not aware he had to report all hospitalizations and was not aware he had to report accusation of abuse which the camp felt were false. But, he stated he now understands all alleged abuse must be reported. was previously cited 7/13/05

No more, "thought he was manipulating". What's a "sternum rub"?

on record review and staff interview the camp failed to report possible abuse to the County Department of Family and Children's Services.  The findings include: Record review of Student Case Notes dated 08/08/2006 revealed the camper stated he was being beaten at the camp. An interview with the Director on August 16, 2006,  revealed he was not aware he had to report accusation of abuse which the camp felt were false. But, he stated he now understands all alleged abuse must be
reported.


Based on campers and staff interviews the camp failed to operate in accordance with its' admission policies and procedures when the camp admitted campers for a 3-4 day "intervention" program. The findings include:  During interviews with 20 campers on August 16, 2006,  4 campers (#1,2,3,4) of 20 revealed Ridgecreek conducts an Intervention Program which lasts around 3-4 days. During an interview with the Director on August 16, 2006 the Director revealed Ridgecreek did conduct an Intervention Program for Hidden Lake Academy (HLA).  However, the Director further indicated that this program is no longer active and it was discontinued in May of 2006.  In addition, the Director revealed that there are no policies in place for the Intervention Program. During an interview with the Director, it was further revealed that the campers who were admitted to the intervention program came from HLA and did not go through the usual admission process. In addition, when the surveyor requested to review the records of the campers that participated in the Intervention Program, the Director stated that no records were kept on these campers.

Based on campers and staff interviews, the camp:

*failed to document knowledge of a significant event for a camper within
24 hours. The findings include: Record review of Student Case Notes for Camper #4 revealed an incident took place where he eloped, became injured and taken to the hospital. Record review of employee #1's written account of what he witnessed revealed he had not written his statement prior to this surveyor's request while on site. An interview with employee #1 revealed he had witnessed part of the event but had not completed his statement, but did so upon this surveyor's request.

*failed to provide campers with adequate quality of nutrients while
participating in the intervention program
.  The findings include:  
During interview with 20 campers on August 16, 2006, 4 campers (#1,2,3,4) of 20 revealed Ridgecreek conducts Intervention which last around 3-4 days. In addition, campers #1 and #5 stated the camp will take away parts of the MRE (meals ready to eat) as punishment?
During an interview with the Director on August 29, 2006 via telephone, the Director revealed the camp does not use food as punishment, but
sometimes the campers may not like the MRE's and choose not eat the whole meal.
In addition, The Director revealed the camp even supplies vegetarian meals when requested.

*failed to conduct daily body checks for campers in the intervention
program. was previously cited 7/13/05 and 6/28/04

Based on campers and staff interviews, prior to admitting students into the Intervention program, the camp--
*failed to admit camper's who met the admission Policies of the Camp.  
*failed to ensure all campers for the intervention program had a medical examination within thirty (30) days prior to admission... In addition, when the surveyor requested to review the records of the campers that participated in the Intervention Program, the Director stated that no records were kept on these campers.  Therefore, there were no medical records available for review.  
*failed to ensure all campers had a dental examination.  was previously cited 7/13/05
*failed to ensure all campers had a psychological evaluation.  was previously cited 6/28/04
*failed to document an intake study.
*failed to complete an intake study to include family relationships, reason  
for placement and developmental history.
*failed to complete an intake study that included documentation of the  
parents expectation of placement and the camper's understanding of placement. was previously cited 7/12/06
*failed to complete an intake study to document a description of camper's
personality, behavior and interests. was previously cited 7/12/06
*failed to complete an intake study to document camper's school history  
and previous placements. was previously cited 7/12/06
*failed to complete an intake study to document campers' legal status and
campers' needs.  was previously cited 7/12/06
*failed to complete an intake study to document immediate and
long-range goals of placement. was previously cited 7/12/06
*failed to complete an intake study to document who will be responsible  
for communication with the camp or to document the list of friends who may visit the camper. was previously cited 7/12/06
*failed to complete an intake study to document the camper's medical and
dental history. was previously cited 7/12/06
*failed to complete an intake study to document the camper's religious  
preference.  
*failed to document discussions about placement with campers and  
camper's parents. was previously cited 7/12/06
*failed to document a written agreement, authorization to care for camper,
medical consent and consent to participate in trips and special Activities.
*failed to document an agreement with minimum goals and expectations
for the campers treatment.
*failed to document a financial agreement.
*failed to document an agreement to include a provision for notifying  
parents in the event of absences, medical or dental problems and any other significant events.
*failed to document written material containing items listed above to
camper's parents.
*failed to provide orientation for new campers.
*failed to maintain permanent records with identifying information for all
campers.
*failed to maintain permanent records with identifying information and
emergency contacts.
*failed to maintain permanent records with date of admission and birth
certificates.
*failed to maintain permanent records with a copy of the intake study.
*failed to maintain permanent records with a placement agreement.
*failed to maintain permanent records with treatment plans and
documentation of case reviews.
*failed to maintain permanent records withhealth records, immunizations,
examinations and treatments recommended and received.
*failed to maintain permanent records including reports of significant
events occurring while the child was in care.
*failed to maintain permanent records with discharge date and to whom
the child was discharged.

The plan of correction is due to the surveyor by October 14,
2006.

Notice all the previous citations? Wonder how many times a program can be cited for the same violation without incuring sanctions?
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2006, 10:14:00 PM »
I read the part about interventions being stopped in may, load of shit... I got sent in june. Tell Mark Keith he is full of shit!
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2006, 06:24:03 PM »
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(4) The Administrator shall be responsible for implementing the policies adopted by the Governing Body, the on-going operation of the Therapeutic Camp, and compliance with the "Rules and Regulations for Therapeutic Camps."

Who is the Administrator/Director? Has he read the regulations? Didn't comprehend, or ask for clarification? Ignored them? Have all staff read the regulations?

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(o) List of friends or others that may be permitted to visit with the Camper if approved by the Camp;

Has anyone at RC informed ORS that severing contact with the outside world is a blanket policy? Has anyone at RC every had a visitor? I didn't even get my weekly phone calls with my son. He apparently didn't get the letters I wrote because his 'counselor' at HLA coached him to confront me about why I didn't write while he was there.

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(3) Termination of contacts between the Camper and his or her family shall not be allowed while the Camper is in care unless the rights of the parents have been terminated by court order or it has been determined by the Placement Agency that family contact is not in the Camper's best interest. The frequency and nature of contact shall be based on the needs of the Camper, and shall be determined with the participation of the Camper, his or her family or Placement Agency and Therapeutic Camp staff. Any limitations shall be filed in the Camper's case record. Restriction of a contact shall be based on a determination by the therapeutic team that due to the nature of the circumstances at that time that particular contact is not in the best interest of the Camper. Reasons for the restrictions shall be shared with the Camper and the family and documented in the Camper's record.

If "Placement Agency" refers to the Ed Con, they are not qualified or allowed by law, to make such determinations. This might be appropriate for a court-ordered placement, but not an Ed Con placement.

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(10) Discipline shall be consistent with the policies of the Therapeutic Camp and shall not be physically or emotionally damaging.

Are "Sternum Rubs" considered appropriate discipline, or does that fall in the catagory of torure?

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4. Denial of shelter, clothing, or essential personal needs;

Does RC still have "Survival Night", where the teen is left in the woods alone without food/water, tent/sleeping bag, flashlight? How are the participants trained to respond should they encounter a rattlesnake or bear?

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(19) All living quarters and service rooms shall be provided with properly installed, operable heating equipment capable of maintaining a temperature of at least 50° Fahrenheit if during the period of normal occupancy the temperature in such quarters falls below 50° Fahrenheit.

Would this imply that they probably shouldn't be sleeping outdoors when temperatures are below 50*, particularly without protection from the elements? How many of the 28 nights do they actually sleep indoors?

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(34) Food service facilities and program shall meet Chapter 290-5-14 Rules and Regulations for Food Service, Georgia Department of Human Resources.

The Rules and Regulations for Food Service, Chapter 290-5-14 are temporarily unavailable online. Please contact the State Environmental Health Office at (404) 657-6534 or your local Georgia county health Department for more information.

I'm going to assume that these Rules are not specific enough for Wilderness programs. Given that kids are hiking 10-20 miles per day, in inclimate weather, they need increased calories and adequate hydration. How many calories in those MREs? ORS should have a look at Utah's regs which are in line with USDA recommendations:
http://www.rules.utah.gov/publicat/code ... 08.htm#T11

R501-8-11. Water and Nutritional Requirements.
(1) Six quarts of potable water shall be available per person, per day, minimum, plus one additional quart per person for each five miles hiked. Although it is not required that the entire amount be hand carried, access to water shall be available at all times during hiking.

(2) In temperatures above 90 degrees F., staff shall make sure consumer intake is a minimum of three quarts of water per day, electrolyte replacement shall be available with the expeditionary group at all times.

(3) In temperatures above 80 degrees F., water shall be available for coating consumer's body, and other cooling down techniques shall be available for the purpose of cooling as needed.

(4) Water shall be available at each campsite. Water cache location information shall be verified with field staff before the group leaves camp each day.

(5) Expedition group shall not depend on aerial drops for water supply. Aerial water drops shall be used for emergency situations only.

(6) All water from natural sources shall be treated for sanitation to eliminate health hazards.

(7) Each program shall have a written menu describing food supplied to the consumer which shall provide a minimum of 3000 calories per day. There must be fresh fruit and vegetables at least twice a week. Food shall never be withheld from a consumer for any reason. Food may not be withheld as a punishment. If no fire is available, other food of equal caloric value, which does not require cooking shall be available.
(a) The menu shall adjust to provide 30-100 percent increase in minimum dietary needs as energy expenditure such as exercise increases, or climate conditions such as cold weather dictate.
(a) Food shall be from a balance of the food groups.
(b) Forage items shall not be used toward the determination of caloric intake.
(c) There shall be no program fasting for more than 24 hours per expeditionary cycle.
(d) Multiple vitamin supplements shall be offered daily.

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(1) Plans of Correction. If the Department determines that either a therapeutic camp or a facility applying to become licensed as a therapeutic camp does not comply with the rules, the Department shall provide written notice specifying the rule(s) violated and setting a time for the agency not to exceed ten (10) working days with in which to file an acceptable written plan of correction where the Department has determined that an opportunity to correct is permissible.....

Twelve of the citations were listed as "previously cited" in June and/or July. Are these then considered "repeat violations"? At what point are sanctions (consequences) imposed?

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If a violation is found on two consecutive inspections there shall exist a rebuttable presumption that the violation continued throughout the period of time between each inspection.
1. Categories of Violations. Violations shall be assigned a category based upon the following criteria:
(i) Category I ($601-$1000 per violation per day): A violation or combination of violations of licensing requirements which has caused death or serious physical or emotional harm to a person or persons in care or poses an imminent and serious threat or hazard to the physical or emotional health and safety of one or more persons in care.
(ii) Category II ($301-$600 per violation per day):A violation or combination of violations of licensing requirements which has direct adverse effect on the physical or emotional health and safety of a person or persons in care.
(iii) Category III ($50-$300 per violation per day):A violation or combination of violations of licensing requirements which indirectly or over a period of time has or is likely to have an adverse effect on the physical or emotional health and safety of a person or persons in care, or a violation or violations of administrative, reporting, or notice requirements.
2. Fine Amounts. The specific amount of the fine for each violation in each category shall be determined based upon whether and when the particular or similar rule, law, or order, or the act, omission, incident, circumstance, or conduct giving rise to the violation of the same regulatory requirement, or one substantially similar thereto, has been cited by the department previously. In no case, however, shall a facility be sanctioned for a violation characterized as a subsequent or repeat violation unless the time frame identified in the acceptable plan of correction has passed and the facility nonetheless has failed to attain or maintain correction.
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2007, 10:55:36 AM »
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HLA does send a lot of kids to RCI.  But, there are also a lot of kids that come to RCI just for a wilderness experience and then go back home.  There are also kids that go to RCI first and then get "refered" to HLA.  My bet is that once HLA folds Buccellato is going to try to keep RCI going as a stand alone wilderness program.

He can try, but this information that I received from an RCI employee suggests that the future of RCI doesn't look so rosy, despite the PR piece linked above.

Once again, rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic did not stop it from sinking.

Please read this staff account below (emphasis added in bold):

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Another bit of info - Jeff Holloway took over Mark's position at Ridge Creek. Just about all of the employees have quit and/or are looking for another position. Right now they are down to these employees:

Jeff Holloway - Director
Bill Ingram - wilderness Instructor
Bridgett Abercrombie - counselor degree
Miriah ____ - wilderness instructor
Blake _____ - wilderness instructor
Carrie _____ - (wife of Blake) admissions

Ridge Creek has only 2 students at this time (National Kids - or paying people in other words) The rest of the kids that are there are HLA kids (which HLA gives no compensation to Ridge Creek for HLA kids attending RC) Total kids there right now is 11 - 9 HLA kids and 2 paying national kids.

Basically - not enough staff for proper supervision of students at all times.

Jeff Holloway thnks he is a big shot now - but was told by an ex-employee last week that he had to earn respect not demand it and that he did not know what he was doing and good luck because at that point they were resigning.


Doesn't seem so rosy in this context, does it?
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2007, 11:44:26 AM »
Who is Holloway's designee? One of them has to present at all times. The designee must be educated on the regulations and operating procedures.
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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2007, 11:50:21 AM »
OK, here's the latest word from the RC staff:

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"As far as the status of them calling staff back to RC - they called Carrie back who is married to an instructer, Blake, and who she was let go initially but since Danielle quit and was in admissions they had no one to handle it.

However, i will say that she is responsible for the files and did not handle it well prior to her being let go before. Now she is back.

Another interesting note is that Carrie and Blake are also moonlighting for a escort service (transporting kids) and have transported kids for this other company to and from Ridge Creek. i would think that would be a conflict of interest.

I also know that she herself has tried to initiate through the escort service and RC before, which is a no no."


Looks like we're going to need to report this information to ORS.  

Apparently there were problems with the way documentation was handled previously by this woman, and now she's back doing it again.  Obviously, moonlighting for a transport service that transports to your own facility is a conflict of interest.

Looks like these changes may require another visit from ORS to investigate...
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2007, 05:38:34 PM »
Looks like your mom may require another visit from ORS
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Looks like your mom may require another visit from ORS


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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2007, 06:15:38 PM »
as far as the interventions go they were stopped well over a year ago, i know i was there.  not arguing just informing.  the sternum rub was used because a student was faking unconsiousness after unsuccessfully running twice in order to get out of the program and was vocally warned beforehand and when pulse taken and verbally asked if ok and asked to stand up the rub was used as a medical procedure to revive consiousness.  of course this technique was shocking and upsetting to the student because was obviously acting.  rci being run now by money driven figureheads with absolutely no experience with the outdoors and no concept of leading by example, no wonder the students never respected these people at HLA.
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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2007, 06:37:44 PM »
"Medical procedure"? You aren't worthy of respect either.

Whichever shitpit you found employment in now (because you can't find a job anywhere else- programmies generally can't), I hope some kid comes from behind with a rock-sharpened can opener, lifts your chin up, and cuts you open from ear to ear.

Then you really will be a shadow.
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2007, 06:42:11 PM »
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as far as the interventions go they were stopped well over a year ago, i know i was there.

You're apparently ill informed. HLA had kids at RC when ORS visited in Aug 06. Scroll up for the report of violations.

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the sternum rub was used because a student was faking unconsiousness after unsuccessfully running twice in order to get out of the program and was vocally warned beforehand and when pulse taken and verbally asked if ok and asked to stand up the rub was used as a medical procedure to revive consiousness.

You're kidding right? I've taken numerous CPR/First Aid classes and have never heard of a sternum rub to "rivive consiousness". If the victim is unconscious but has a pulse and is breathing, you let them be and call 911. "Sternum rub" sounds like a technique employed to shake out fakers. Otherwise, why the "warning"?

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of course this technique was shocking and upsetting to the student because was obviously acting.

How long may he have feined unconsciousness without 'intervention'. Couldn't wait a few minutes, huh?
Nah. Sounds more like an opportunity to "shock and upset".  

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rci being run now by money driven figureheads with absolutely no experience with the outdoors and no concept of leading by example, no wonder the students never respected these people at HLA.


no doubt, it's money-driven, but how would you define "leading by example"? As in, no qualifications? As in ex Mt Rangers?
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