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Elizabeth Smart and cults...
Antigen:
What stretch?
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
-- Robert Heinlein
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Anonymous:
Aren't the Mormons widely regarded as a cult outside of the US?
I have to admit that my first thought on reading the news item was , well, the Mormons are a cult aren't they, these people are Mormons... hence their kids are already somewhat vulnerable. And I'm not saying this out of malice, but simply that I can understand her pain. I hope when she gets older she can break away from that dependancy...
Just a part of the insanity that is the world today.
Powerful Attitude:
Hello, how is everyone today. I am very interested in any information pertaining to CULTS that hold the same characteristics of these sadistic (CULTS) :nworthy: Rehabs. It has been 18 years for me until recently I was given a different SET OF EYES. I can't help expose the truth until I obtain what I am looking for. I saw a hell of a lot going on when i was in for 16 months, SO THE SEARCH HAS BEGUN.
Links, authors, title's, WHERE ONE WOULD FIND, Names, names, names
SINCE I'M NEW. THANK YOU. :wave:
How did they get to the parents so well, it seemed they where all under the spell?
I believe that the parent has always been guilty of wanting too much ABUSIVE control in the get go. How else can your family look across the room at you and say all is good we'll come back next month.... or when ever the bastard earns it. They are guilty..........of control.
Is this why they were taken so easy?
How in the hell could they all have been so blind?
They (STRAIGHT) where working the arts.
[ This Message was edited by: Powerful Attitude on 2003-03-16 11:30 ]
Britt15:
Well, she was missing for 9 months, her family seemed to be a "high up", well known "perfect" little family. I think maybe since shes only 15 she was pregnant and her parents didnt want to go through the humiliation of all that and had someone take her away until she had the baby, she camr back perfectly fine, healthy, and in the same town? Now how unlikely is that?. There is deffinitely alot more to the story than they are telling us
Antigen:
On 2003-03-16 11:21:00, Powerful Attitude wrote:
"Hello, how is everyone today. I am very interested in any information pertaining to CULTS that hold the same characteristics of these sadistic (CULTS) :nworthy: Rehabs. It has been 18 years for me until recently I was given a different SET OF EYES. I can't help expose the truth until I obtain what I am looking for. I saw a hell of a lot going on when i was in for 16 months, SO THE SEARCH HAS BEGUN.
Links, authors, title's, WHERE ONE WOULD FIND, Names, names, names
SINCE I'M NEW. THANK YOU. :wave:
How did they get to the parents so well, it seemed they where all under the spell?
I believe that the parent has always been guilty of wanting too much ABUSIVE control in the get go. How else can your family look across the room at you and say all is good we'll come back next month.... or when ever the bastard earns it. They are guilty..........of control.
Is this why they were taken so easy?
How in the hell could they all have been so blind?
They (STRAIGHT) where working the arts.
Well, here's the pitch. Drugs R bad, M'khay?
I know, I know, it doesn't seem too bad. In fact, it seems like kind of a benign statement, right?
But think of what was going on in the summer of `70 when The Seed first opened. That summer was also known as the summer of Manson. All kinds of shit was breaking loose; Woodstock, Patty Hearst and then a copy cat murderer on a military base in Maryland. All this madness was very deliberately and effectively linked to the demon weed by the Nixon Admin's propaganda service. When Bobby DuPont came out with the gateway theory (i.e. pot -> addiction -> running away with the Manson family and coming back in the night to slaughter their loving families), parents of the WWII generation believed it.
That got it started and money and political momentum have kept it going. Check out this hysterical response that a friend of mine got from his congressman in response to an inquery on medical marijuana:
Michael G. Oxley M. C.
Dear Mr. Precup:
Thank you for contacting my office in regard to the medical use of marijuana. I appreciate hearing from you.
While I understand the emotional arguments in support of medical marijuana use, it is important to give careful consideration to the reasoning of the opposition. The Food and Drug Administration has conducted much scientific research into the benefits of the medical use of marijuana, only to conclude that none exist. The American Medical Association, the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, the American Glaucoma Society, the American Academy of Ophthalmology, and the American Cancer Society have all rejected the claim that marijuana has any therapeutic value. In addition, tile law enforcement community declares that legalization might increase crime levels and hamper efforts to prevent the spread of drugs into our communities. The sale of
marijuana in pharmacies could lead to security problems for those pharmacies, as criminals attempt to steal the drug for sale on the street.
Attempts to ease federal restrictions on marijuana for medical purposes have not been very successful. State initiatives to provide medical marijuana have made little headway as well. As a former special agent with the FBI, I have seen the scourge that drugs have caused on our streets. The argument that medical marijuana serves as a gateway drug to harder drugs is also
compelling and frightening. Now the war on terrorism has been joined with the war on illegal drug use, U.S. officials have suspects in custody who attempted to use profits from illicit drug sales to finance the purchase of Stinger missiles for al Qaeda. This is a connection that must be broken, and never allowed to form, with all due haste and force.
I have the utmost sympathy for those living with the pain of cancer, glaucoma, and other diseases. However, I remain skeptical as to the benefits
of legalizing marijuana for medicinal purposes. I believe that as a society we must do everything possible to protect the health and safety of all
citizens, our families, and our communities. This *includes, in my view, increasing and not lessening the stigma that society attaches to drug use. I would regret any action by Congress that could be viewed as tacit government approval for the legalization of marijuana.
As these issues are considered by Congress, rest assured I will keep your comments in mind. Thank you again for contacting my office.
Yours truly,
Michael G. Oxley M. C.
fourth Ohio District
I can understand how parents in the 70's and even older parents in the early `80's got taken in. Some scary shit was happening and their leaders told them it was all because of the "drug culture". But I have a really hard time understanding how people my age and younger can buy into this crap or how politicians, who you'd expect to be well informed, can continue believing this tripe.
Anyway, there's a lot of history and documentation available from Wes Fager's website, http://thestraights.com/
Time's fun when you're having flies.
--Kermit the Frog
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