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Elizabeth Smart and cults...
Anonymous:
On 2003-03-17 19:13:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Mormonism is not a cult. visit http://www.lds.org
---> before you judge a group of people or a Church, try investigating about it first. The faith and prayers of this family has been heard by God. What happened is a great miracle and it's a proven fact that these people, these mormons have been found worthy in the eyes of God because of their faith, commitment and obedience to His will for them.
One thing that is wrong with people is that sometimes they tend to be so proud and so wise of their knowledge of what they believe is right, they judge and judge but they lack respect for other peoples feelings and true character. These people who you call a cult are also your brothers and sisters, and your fellow citizens. Why do you judge them and treat them so bad? IS it because you know that they are very forgiving and won't fight back? Maybe that is the reason. But this is not right and you know it. You should judge those who have committed crimes and have proven guilty in your cities. But give them fair judgement, according to what they have done. Do not judge those who are trying to make this world a better and safe place. I know many mormon people who done a great job in my community, and they are very honest hardworking people. They are the best of friends you can ever have in this life.
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Yeah, right!
I've read all about the Angel baloney, oops, Morony.
Yupp, they're a cult, alright.
Anonymous:
On 2003-03-17 19:18:00, Anonymous wrote:
"I agree to what you have said. All the Mormon prayers have been answered, maybe, on Elizabeth Smart. The local news in the Midwest is saluting the ?news? as a miracle. Without a doubt, God has intervened in behalf of Elizabeth Smart. The fact that she has been found after all these months PROVES that God answers prayers, particularly for Mormons. And it all happened to this wonderful, wealthy Mormon family! Praise the Lord! It was God?s miracle.
I know a lot of mormons too and yes, they are very good people. "
Sincere, good, devout? hmmm maybe!
but, naive, misled, conned, misinformed and even deluded? definitely!
Your response (if it's not drippng with irony) convices me even more that Mormonism is a cult
There is no god. so forget it.
Anonymous:
Why attack each other's faith, or lack of.
Aren't we more concerned with a kidnapping of a beautiful, loved young woman here? And wasn't she a good example of just how fragile, yet strong we are as humans? I mean, didn't she show her fragility by giving in to her captors (not unlike you and I) in order to survive. And by surviving the horrid circumstances, didn't she prove her inner strength and will to live.
The ones of us who care to pray should do so.
All of us should at least find the decency not to exploit her further by criticizing her family or even her. Duh. so you think any child would choose to go off with a creepy man who cut his way into their bedroom window. Right?
Anonymous:
The point is, I think, that its the religious fundamentalists, including Mormons -- and I consider all religions to be, essentially cults --- that got her into that sort of mess to begin with.
The kidnappers themselves were the product of the delusional thinking of the religionists.
The Straights -- Semblers, Bushes, N. American fundamentalists of all stripes -- are the ones responsible for the drug war and all the nasty, evil treatment centres that seek to impose their narrow interpretion on us all. Frankly, I do agree with the poster who said that there has to be more to this than meets the eye. Maybe we'll find out at the trial,which may not be for some time. But if there's a deal, maybe we'll never find out. The history of scandals and cover-ups of cons by the Mormon Church Elders over the years in Utah has been extensively written about elsewhere.
It's definitely a cult, but as I said before, as a victim I feel sorry for her. But she's equally a victim.
atheist.
Antigen:
I have to agree with you here, Anon. That's why WWASP, fundie christian boarding schools and similar organizations thrive so well in Utah, So. Dakota, Mississippi and other rural areas of the south. Utah can't do anything about the way these places operate because they operate just exactly like the Mormon versions. So they're essentially giving cover and shelter to other abusive, cultish groups in order to protect their own abusive, cultish groups.
See what happens whithout a seperation of church and state?
If people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson
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