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Deborah:
--- Quote from: ""F. Lee Bailey"" ---Robert,
I apologize for neglecting your other comments. I did not see any particular questions. We seem to have established that there are no state or federal regulatory agencies which can be identified that HLA, as a private organization, must adhere to. Businesses from farms, airlines, and oil companies have received federal funds and subsidies yet remain privately owned and opperated. So I am unsure that HLA is some how now considered a public school. HLA is a boarding school not an RTC.
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Why the name change, Hunter?
(b) "Child caring institution" means any institution, society, agency, or facility, whether incorporated or not, which either primarily or incidentally provides full-time care for children under 17 years of age outside of their own homes, subject to such exceptions as may be provided in rules and regulations of the Board of Human Resources**. For purposes of these rules, a child caring institution means any institution, society, agency, or facility that provides such care to six or more children.*
No person, partnership, association, corporation or entity shall operate a child caring institution in the state without first obtaining a license to operate the institution by demonstrating compliance with the necessary requirements set forth in these rules. Institutions operated as a part of a local church ministry or religious nonprofit school or a nonprofit religious charitable organization may request to be commissioned in lieu of
licensed. All provisions of these rules shall apply to institutions that request to be commissioned, and for the purposes of these rules, the term license shall have the same meaning as commission.*
Exempt:
1. Child welfare agencies and other facilities and institutions wherein children and youths are detained which are operated by any department or agency of state, county, or municipal government.*
2. Any bona fide boarding school whose primary purpose of admission is education, provided that such facility in order to claim exemption shall operate under a published academic educational curriculum which meets the requirements of the State Department of Education, shall have classroom facilities which are not used for residential living, shall not have been granted nor have assumed legal custody of children attending the
facility, and shall not provide service planning and casework services as described in these rules.*
3. Facilities owned and operated by the state or federal government.*
4. Temporary recreational facilities and programs which limit residency to no more than three months, such as summer camps.*
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Are you arguing that HLA is not a Child Caring Institution?
Have you reviewed the regulations?
I'm trying to understand why you wouldn't want your child to have the minimal protection that state regs provides.
What kind of parent would advocate for no state oversight to keep costs down?
Did you send your child to HLA for the stellar academic program only? Would you pay $6000/month for your child to be educated by HLA for 18 months?
Would you pay $6000 a month if there was no "therapy"?
Did you deduct any of the "tuition" as a medical expense?
Or write off trips to visit your "disabled" child on your 1040?
Time to get off the fence. Can't have it both ways.
Deborah:
--- Quote from: ""F. Lee Bailey"" ---If it is true that HLA is primarily a treatment facility of some type answer the following questions.
Why are students refered by Educational Consultants rather than psychologists, psychologists, M.D.'s, social workers, etc?
Are you assuming that parents primary motivation for sending students to HLA is primarily for treatment rather than education?
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Kids are refered by shrinks and psychologists, including the owner. Last demographic sheet I saw said 60some percent were referred by Ed Cons.
Not sure who refers the court appointed kids. Do you know?
As I asked in my previous post- did you send your kid to HLA for an 18 month stellar academic program?
Why only 18 months?
Why wouldn't you leave your child there for the academic program until they graduate high school?
What kind of 'school' charges $6000 per month and doesn't even have certified teachers or a science lab.
RobertBruce:
I guess he got sleepy and went to bed.
Or maybe there were just one too many questions for him to answer.
I guess we'll see whatever stooge they send out next.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""RobertBruce"" ---I guess he got sleepy and went to bed.
Or maybe there were just one too many questions for him to answer.
I guess we'll see whatever stooge they send out next.
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He probably just dozed off..... things are just rather boring in Arkansas this time of year.
Anonymous:
Let us begin again. Deborah, I am sure that many parents that consider placing their child anywhere for education or for care may consider the questions you raise. State or federal regulation, certification, etc. As you stated, you don't understand why a parent would not want these things. I would state that this is why there are other options since these things are obviously important to you.
The issue is not what a consumer desires in a product but what the provider is required by law to provide. Consumers in our society have multiple options regarding services. Part of being a consumer is finding the right services at the right price for each individual.
The ORS states clearly that as a boarding school HLA is exempt. You may not like this but this is the fact. You may prefer to view HLA as a RTC rather than a boarding school. You may prefer to see America as a rising facist state; you may prefer to believe the world would be better if we could all just get stoned. You are entitled to your opinions. Just recognize that your arguments are designed to pressure a service provider to produce a product you desire but the provider is under no obligation to provide.
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