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RobertBruce:
--- Quote ---First, are you certain no private organizations are allowed to accept federal funds?
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No private organizations? That I don't know. HLA however, that one I'm positive on. Not just for the reason that they are a school that accepted federal funding, but because they should be licensed as an RTC and private are not, are therefore subject to state oversight.
--- Quote ---Second, doesn't government oversight tend to increase cost and reduce efficiency? Ever been to a governement agency to get anything done?
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Let's take this argument a step further shall we? Why don't we remove all government oversight? That way manufacturing plants wouldnt have that pesky EPA always looking over their shoulder increasing cost and reducing effciency. While were at it lets remove all state medical boards. Anyone who wants to be a doctor should get to be a doctor (I know Clay is with me on this) screw any kind of oversight. I think you're really onto something here. As far as reducing cost at HLA Len could always lower salaries by 20% instead of ten. That might save a few dollars. As far as efficency...well Hla has never exactly been a model of that anyway, perhaps the state reps could give them a few pointers. Oh and to answer your question I've been to the post office many many times. They usually get the job done.
--- Quote ---Sounds like HLA is just not living up to your expectations. Thank goodness we live in a Capitalist society so you have other schools to choose from.
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My expectations? My expectations are that they practice what they cram down kids throats. That they follow state laws. That they be honest in all things. That they not lie to parents. That they treat children with respect and dignity and not just as a cash cow that needs to be silenced. Are these too high for you? As to other schools, from what I've seen most RTCs are the same as hla, many are far worse. As to choices...well remember how much they lie to parents. Not that I as a child had any choice in the matter to begin with.
Anonymous:
Is it not true that RTC are locked units which limit the freedom and mobility of thier clients? If this is true, HLA students roam the campus freely and the campus has no fencing or gates. How does this quality HLA as a RTC?
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RobertBruce:
I was unaware that one of the requirements to be considered a RTC was lockdown facility. Perhaps you can provide a link proving such a claim? Furthermore inmates at hla are not exactly free to "roam the campus" as you put it.
Were you going to get to any of those other questions?
Anonymous:
Robert,
I apologize for neglecting your other comments. I did not see any particular questions. We seem to have established that there are no state or federal regulatory agencies which can be identified that HLA, as a private organization, must adhere to. Businesses from farms, airlines, and oil companies have received federal funds and subsidies yet remain privately owned and opperated. So I am unsure that HLA is some how now considered a public school. HLA is a boarding school not an RTC.
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Deborah:
--- Quote from: ""F. Lee Bailey"" ---Robert
First, are you certain no private organizations are allowed to accept federal funds?
Second, doesn't government oversight tend to increase cost and reduce efficiency? Ever been to a governement agency to get anything done?
Sounds like HLA is just not living up to your expectations. Thank goodness we live in a Capitalist society so you have other schools to choose from.
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Any school/program that receives Fed money must follow certain requirements. Being properly licensed for the services provided is one. Can't ride the fence- telling the state you're a private boarding school and the public, a TBS. I challenge you, or any parent, to read the ORS regulations and list the regulations you feel would not be in the participants best interests.
No doubt, oversight would increase costs. There may be a nominal annual fee for the license. Each 'patient' would have a service plan. At $6000 a month, that doesn't seem too much to ask. Regulations would certainly interfere with many of their policies and procedures. They may have to allow contact with family unless proven to be detrimental, to provide adequate calories, to banish some of their barbaric punishments, to name a few. I would think any caring parent would support that.
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