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Very important message....from TCK
Aggressive Alpha Male:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Well I had seem some pretty fucked up shit BUT never seem anyone kicked out, There was one girl there she was so awfull that she was kept in a closet for months on end her and and empty mattress the P.O. that would sit in the door 24-7 I offten wonder what ever happened to her. But even with that she was not kicked out,,,
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When I first got to Elan they say *Its the last program and you cannot be kicked out*. Well during my 8-9 month stay I have seen 6 people kicked out. People that were in the corner and defying the program all the way through, so yes one can be kicked out.
Elan will try to tolerate as much as they can, and continue to do so.
But after months of being in the corner, or commiting a serious violation, people were kicked out.
Some of the reasons vary, but I recall some instances. One teen knocked a chick up and she refused to get an abortion, A huge GM was even held over this because she wanted to keep her child. Gottlieb & Kruglick painted a picture of her as a whore. They even tried to make her wear a sign that read something like this: *Please confront me as to why I am a whore and why I refuse to terminate a pregnancy by mistake* Real fuckin cruel IMO. I later heard from an old peer that the 2 of them got married and raised their Son.
Another person was kicked out for assaulting a staff member, and was removed from Elan via the police and was sent to prison. He was @ Elan as an alternative to prison and I guess the *Self proclaimed therapists* that worked @ Elan had Zero tolerance because of his violent back ground.
Others were kicked out for continous breaking cardinal rules *having sex*, and one for running away from Elan one too many times.
So the answer to the question is Yes, one can be kicked out of Elan.
Whether or not it is still happening in todays Elan, thats a question I couldn't answer. But as far as in 87-88 people were kicked out.
Anonymous:
I was there in 90. I saw one kid get pulled out by his dad after he spent months in the corner. The poor bastard. He could hardly walk when he left. He was kept in the stairway leading up to the mens dorms in 3. A small dark dreary place to be kept huh? He was either refused showers or he refused to take them but all I know is that he was one stinky kid. I actually clapped when I saw him leave. I was happy he was leaving. A little rough around the edges from when he entered mind you.
The kid that smashed Tanya's oinker stayed on. He was not even arrested. Nothing. I guess it all depended on your status. Probation/parole or not. Very few if any were there in lieu of jail when I was there.
I remember one girl who was like 15. She was about 5 months pregnant. She was threatened to be sent to a juvenile detention center and would have her kid taken away from her if she refused the abortion. She was to far along for an abortion. If she was under 13 weeks pregnant then fine but damn with medical care that baby in her belly could survive if it was born at the point along she was.
It was sickening what they did to her. They had other girls who had kids or abortions "coach" her into getting an abortion. A girl I know in the group was mad at herself for encouraging the abortion.
Everyone was under 17 it was like they had no choice in the matter.
In the long run she got the abortion. She was so sad and sick for a long time. I don't think she smiled again for a few months.
A few years later I got the entire story from my friend who was in the group and who went with her to the clinic. There were protestors and the whole 9 yards. Poor girl. It was something like you would see on a "Lifetime Channel" movie.
I heard she has a beautifull child now. Bless her soul.
Elan was so cruel to people.
It seems like people were a little older in the early Elan days. When I was there there was like 1 or 2 18 year olds and less than 5 17 year olds. Everyone was so damned young.
Aggressive Alpha Male:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I was there in 90. I saw one kid get pulled out by his dad after he spent months in the corner. The poor bastard. He could hardly walk when he left. He was kept in the stairway leading up to the mens dorms in 3. A small dark dreary place to be kept huh? He was either refused showers or he refused to take them but all I know is that he was one stinky kid. I actually clapped when I saw him leave. I was happy he was leaving. A little rough around the edges from when he entered mind you.
The kid that smashed Tanya's oinker stayed on. He was not even arrested. Nothing. I guess it all depended on your status. Probation/parole or not. Very few if any were there in lieu of jail when I was there.
I remember one girl who was like 15. She was about 5 months pregnant. She was threatened to be sent to a juvenile detention center and would have her kid taken away from her if she refused the abortion. She was to far along for an abortion. If she was under 13 weeks pregnant then fine but damn with medical care that baby in her belly could survive if it was born at the point along she was.
It was sickening what they did to her. They had other girls who had kids or abortions "coach" her into getting an abortion. A girl I know in the group was mad at herself for encouraging the abortion.
Everyone was under 17 it was like they had no choice in the matter.
In the long run she got the abortion. She was so sad and sick for a long time. I don't think she smiled again for a few months.
A few years later I got the entire story from my friend who was in the group and who went with her to the clinic. There were protestors and the whole 9 yards. Poor girl. It was something like you would see on a "Lifetime Channel" movie.
I heard she has a beautifull child now. Bless her soul.
Elan was so cruel to people.
It seems like people were a little older in the early Elan days. When I was there there was like 1 or 2 18 year olds and less than 5 17 year olds. Everyone was so damned young.
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Those asshole directors took a personal hatred in teen pregnancy, probably because most of them were steriel and couldn't make babies, so they took out their frustrations on people that could. Like I stated, they couldn't make it in the real world, that is why they work were they work.
Thanks for sharing your story, I thought what I witnessed *A teen getting pregnant and being forced to abort their unborn child* would be a one time isolated incident at Elan. I wonder how many more Girls got pregnant while @ Elan, and the negative pressure to get their unborn children aborted by the Idiot directors :question:
Anonymous:
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Anonymous:
Did you miss the momo?
The hi yuh shit aint funny.
Its annoyingly fucking stupid.
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