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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2006, 11:58:07 AM »
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So to answer your question, yes there are alternatives to placing youth in facilities against their will.


Yeah but Karen went the "force" route and used escorts to kidnap Jr. and send him to wilderness, then another transport to Carlbrook.  

Karen only knows the "force" route because it insures absolute control over the situation, which BTW, is all she ever wants in any situation.  She's a freak like that.
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2006, 12:35:50 PM »
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Out of respect to the lady who actually bothered to come on here with a screen name (for what it's worth) and actually engage in some dialogue, I will treat you with the respect that you deserve.

For starters, and this makes a huge difference in my mind, did you and your son agree on wilderness camp/boarding school, or did he go under some kind of coercive threat.

Second, as for alternate solutions, while this isn't available everywhere at the moment, there is what is called a systems of care model that brings in all of the agencies that work with "at-risk" youth (probation, mental health, social services, education) and gets them communicating with each other.  Where along with input from the youth themselves, services are provided to prevent the youth from having to leave home.  If it's an issue of family dynamics and the adults in the family are at wits end, they can offer respite care, where a social service agency will either take the youth on a weekend trip, or provide "babysitting service" while the family takes a trip of their own.  It has proven extremely effective in preventing youth from having to leave the home.

So to answer your question, yes there are alternatives to placing youth in facilities against their will.  

As for the "make up year", I believe that question has already been answered.  I hope that this response answers some of your questions, and that you may have a more balanced view of wilderness programs/TBS's in the future.

Brian


Hiring escorts was one of the most "humane" things we ever did for our son. We had lost control. We could not possibly have gotten him to a program without him running from us and perhaps being lost to us forever. The compassionate, professional escorts we hired had an extremely difficult time transporting our son, but they never once gave up or abused him in any way, even when he nearly killed them and himself by grabbing the steering wheel of the car from the backseat. My son never questioned our use of escorts, even in his anger at being in wilderness and later at TBS. Today we are the proud parents of a student-athlete who is achieving his full potential.
We didn't talk to our son for 7 or 8 weeks. We received and wrote weekly letters which were faxed in both directions. I think it is better for the kids- and the parents- NOT to speak. Obviously the dialogue at home was not productive, and that dynamic can interfere with the therapeutic process. The therapist at wilderness knew when the time was right for a short phone call.
Do you not understand that for many families having the kid remain in the home is simply not an option? When the kid is violent and dangerous to himself and others and is truly ruining his or her life, a program is the only chance. Perhaps many of you were placed in bad programs. That does not mean that there are not good ones out there.
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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2006, 12:37:20 PM »
Karen, you forgot to mention that you're going to sue.  You're slipping...
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2006, 12:40:35 PM »
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Karen, you forgot to mention that you're going to sue.  You're slipping...


I predict that within 6 months you will be sending your son to a program. You will not be able to manage him at home, and his drug use will greatly increase. Perhaps wilderness is not the right place due to his anxiety disorder, but there are very good reasons why the kids can only communicate by letter. The family dynamics are usually a big part of the underlying problem, and need to be removed from the equation before progress can be made. Sue that, bitch.
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« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2006, 12:45:11 PM »
Karen, do you think EVERYONE would be better off going to a program? I have read through your posts and I am disgusted by you. Why don't you take some responsibility for your kids (step kids?) and actually do some work instead of paying someone else to do it?! Did you even want kids?!  :flame:
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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2006, 12:50:08 PM »
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The family dynamics are usually a big part of the underlying problem, and need to be removed from the equation before progress can be made.


here's the equation:

gay dad

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overbearing phony control freak beard mom
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screwed up junkie flunkie kid
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« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2006, 12:51:44 PM »
Whoa, Karen! Is there something you haven't been telling us?  :-?
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« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2006, 12:58:20 PM »
yeah, she's a beard for a gay guy.  this is old news.  where ya been?
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« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2006, 01:52:05 PM »
More fiction.....and you wonder why no one sticks around.
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« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2006, 01:54:19 PM »
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More fiction.....and you wonder why no one sticks around.


no, we wonder why YOU do STAY.  this site is your whole life!  what a loser.

aren't you tired of hauling water for that nasty bitch Karen?
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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2006, 02:56:39 PM »
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More fiction.....and you wonder why no one sticks around.

no, we wonder why YOU do STAY.  this site is your whole life!  what a loser.

aren't you tired of hauling water for that nasty bitch Karen?


Well, genius?  Care to answer?
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« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2006, 02:58:29 PM »
No, I don't care to answer.
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« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2006, 02:59:39 PM »
good.  you finally shut your cake-hole.  what a relief.
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« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2006, 03:36:04 PM »
This whole thread is ridiculous.
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« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2006, 03:44:10 PM »
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Gee, I thought your son was halfway through college now.  I wonder why you are posting this very old post again.  Wait-maybe it isn't really you, Karen!  Could it BE someone impersonating her?  NOT on fornits, certainly, where everyone has the utmost integrity and respect for others.  Since it was reported, sadly, that Karen had disappeared both from here and ST, I wonder who it could be bringing back these posts?  Maybe someone very, very lonely and bored with no life???


Gee-you sure sound a lot like karen.
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