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Dahlonega Nugget - Article on HLA Lawsuit
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--- Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penal"" ---Holy shit, they actually posted that? Did Lon grow a heart and a brain?
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Non Prophet
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posted September 20, 2006 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by WillieNelson:
Fornits has little value. The posters have an agenda and it does not involve providing an honest evaluation of programs. There ARE no good programs, according to Fornits.
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I'm not sure how this statement reconciles with this one:
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Originally posted by WillieNelson:
I don't understand why you would say to be "wary" of advice received from parents on this site. ANY advice should be taken in the spirit in which it is given- one family's experience with a program. However, most if not ALL the legitimate parents posting on this site give thoughtful and truthful advice about programs and their own experiences. If you are receiving alarming messages, they are probably not from any of the regular members of this site.
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This is quite a dichotomy, Willie. On one hand you exhort readers not to be wary of anything posted on this site, but to completely discount information from another site, even though it is offered in the same spirit.
Upon thoroughly examining this site and fornits, it is without question that the fornits database is far more penetrating (backed up with links and documents) than this one.
I suggest you skip over the coarse language and look for the information you need. You are much more llikely to find the skeletons in the closets of teen-help facilities by searching fornits. Isn't that what's important?
This site, while useful in some ways, presents a very structured, slanted appraisal of the teen-help industry, as it is an extension of a teen program marketing business. In other words (regardless of the validity of certain pieces of information), this site has a "dog in the fight" in the teen-help controversy and it therefore necessarily reflects that bias.
Fornits, on the other hand, is not a for-profit enterprise and, as such has no "agenda" as an earlier poster suggested. Rather, it is a meeting place for those interested in examining the true depth and breadth of information about the teen-help industry, including the heavily suppressed negative aspects of it.
For instance, fornits has posted links to a massive lawsuit against the "flagship" TBS whose owner funded the creation of NATSAP. NATSAP has gotten plenty of positive coverage over the past few days on this site, while this massive lawsuit against its progenitor has been completely and utterly ignored - not even a mention, even though ISACCORP.org (a watchdog group) has reported it and it is on the front page of the Dahlonega Nugget (the local paper where the facility is situated) today.
Please refer:
http://www.thedahloneganugget.com/artic ... /01hla.txt
This salient point dovetails with the above poster's assertion that a program that is currently being investigated for child sexual assault was championed by one or more parents on this site, despite the fact that the lawsuit and investigation are public knowledge (and completely unacknowledged on this site).
Food for thought.
Anonymous:
Wow, that is ownaj.
Now all they have to do is discuss it!
*crickets*
Anonymous:
A 70-page complaint! Those lawyers sure didn't fool around.
Anonymous:
and, twenty days to answer..
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Martin Quirk contended that the accusations against Hidden Lake Academy are merely the result of disgruntled parents who, after withdrawing their children prior to completion of the program, are now reluctant to forfeit their deposit. These fees, he added, are a normal part of such schools.
?A couple of parents that withdrew their children didn't like that provision, which they had signed,? said Quirk. ?And apparently blew it way out of proportion.?
You keep on believing that Marty......
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At this weekends' Parent WorkShop, one parent told me that HLA
re-iterated "that it was a couple of disgruntled parents"....and basically no big thing...however, Cates neglected to say that HLA was being investigated by "ALL" STATE and corresponding Federal
Agencies.... Now, to understand this undertaking, there is no way
a firm like Berger and Montague would take this lawsuit if it did not have merit.... it is no different with the State and Federal agencies..
Investigations of this magnitude take time, man power and an exhorbitant amount of money....let's get real HLA....
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