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Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---now that there is a Hyde School supporter or perhaps leader posting on the site and participating in debate , I would like to ask how do you determine attitude from aptitude?..Kids who study excell...Muhammad Ali said "the fight is won way before I dance under the lights, in private preparation". At Hyde kids who performed well academically were (i was) singled out as "smart but not trying"...how did they know that i was not trying?? as a child I was a reader, not one who told others how hard I worked, or pretended to work hard for Hydepraise like my peers. What if I was reading the WorldBook encyclopedia as a child while the other more Joelike kids were watching Scooby Doo and telling everyone how hard they worked? Joe hated to give good grades to kids he did not personally identify with, that is why he founded Hyde School. Perhaps he was a marginal student himself and disgruntled with others who seemed to him to work less yet achieve? His subjective opinion is more important than objective truth, the childs performance and grades,,,for almost all people aptitude IS attitude, harmony is the most important thing in communication, (with out it all is lost) Achievement IS Character and achiement builds character. Please,,,,,, discuss...
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I like to give the devil his due. Joe was/is correct that it takes more to be successful in life that scholastic achievement.

As a natural introvert I think it is good to learn how to work outside your comfort zone. I do. It is good to be aware of how you feel and to be aware of the emotional needs of the others that are around you. IT is good to have a sense of you place in the order of the universe. You need an emotional/physical/intellectual/spiritual balance.

Academics at Hyde were extraordinarily weak when I was there. Class taught by athletic coaches were a joke with the notable exception of Legg's class. I actually developed a love of mathematics at hyde as a result of having a lazy coach as an instructor. I ended up teaching the class because he was too lazy to wake up on time in the morning. Explaining my high school record to gain admission to an engineering college was a trip.

Spirituality at Hyde? Please some one fill in the punch line to this joke.

Physical: Hard not to be in good shape when you are there. How many Hyde graduates engage in life long fitness? I love to see hyde coaches that look like they live on twinkies and beer. Love to go to those alum events and see the guys that used to wrestle 127 look like they need special springs on their SUVs

Emotional: Spilling your guts and having a good cry is not good emotional health any more then pigging out on junk food then barfing is good nutrition.

So to some up: Joe is correct but Hyde does not deliever.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---now that there is a Hyde School supporter or perhaps leader posting on the site and participating in debate , I would like to ask how do you determine attitude from aptitude?..Kids who study excell...Muhammad Ali said "the fight is won way before I dance under the lights, in private preparation". At Hyde kids who performed well academically were (i was) singled out as "smart but not trying"...how did they know that i was not trying?? as a child I was a reader, not one who told others how hard I worked, or pretended to work hard for Hydepraise like my peers. What if I was reading the WorldBook encyclopedia as a child while the other more Joelike kids were watching Scooby Doo and telling everyone how hard they worked? Joe hated to give good grades to kids he did not personally identify with, that is why he founded Hyde School. Perhaps he was a marginal student himself and disgruntled with others who seemed to him to work less yet achieve? His subjective opinion is more important than objective truth, the childs performance and grades,,,for almost all people aptitude IS attitude, harmony is the most important thing in communication, (with out it all is lost) Achievement IS Character and achiement builds character. Please,,,,,, discuss...
--- End quote ---

I like to give the devil his due. Joe was/is correct that it takes more to be successful in life that scholastic achievement.

As a natural introvert I think it is good to learn how to work outside your comfort zone. I do. It is good to be aware of how you feel and to be aware of the emotional needs of the others that are around you. IT is good to have a sense of you place in the order of the universe. You need an emotional/physical/intellectual/spiritual balance.

Academics at Hyde were extraordinarily weak when I was there. Class taught by athletic coaches were a joke with the notable exception of Legg's class. I actually developed a love of mathematics at hyde as a result of having a lazy coach as an instructor. I ended up teaching the class because he was too lazy to wake up on time in the morning. Explaining my high school record to gain admission to an engineering college was a trip.

Spirituality at Hyde? Please some one fill in the punch line to this joke.

Physical: Hard not to be in good shape when you are there. How many Hyde graduates engage in life long fitness? I love to see hyde coaches that look like they live on twinkies and beer. Love to go to those alum events and see the guys that used to wrestle 127 look like they need special springs on their SUVs

Emotional: Spilling your guts and having a good cry is not good emotional health any more then pigging out on junk food then barfing is good nutrition.

So to some up: Joe is correct but Hyde does not deliever.
--- End quote ---

Good insight, only I am not as kind as you. I think of all the times that I was in other people's faces and feel ashamed and sorry. I hated Hyde so much and feel horrible about what I participated in. Yes there were some good lessons I learned at Hyde, but I certainly don't use them in the way Hyde tried to teach them. It does not work in the real world.

As far as the twinkies, I laughed my ass off about that. Like you I notice that as the school progresses, so do the stomachs of the staff, especially the women! I think they are eating more than twinkies!! For a school that tries to keep the students in shape, they ought to look in the mirror. Not a good example at all.

Hey, does anyone know if there is still a teacher at Woodstock campus name Kevin? He is gay and a really nice guy. Does Terry Walsh still hit the bottle and is Dubinsky still gropping the girls? I assume that Bertchy is still the "heavy weight" at the school?

Ursus:

--- Quote ---...it takes more to be successful in life that scholastic achievement.
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If this is the sum take-home for tens of thousands of dollars per year, I'll take my chances gleaning wisdom from a comic book.

--- Quote ---Spirituality at Hyde?
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Read "The Making of a Messiah." Cult, cult, cult.

--- Quote ---Hard not to be in good shape when you are there.
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Especially with all those extra "bad attitude" laps.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---now that there is a Hyde School supporter or perhaps leader posting on the site and participating in debate , I would like to ask how do you determine attitude from aptitude?..Kids who study excell...Muhammad Ali said "the fight is won way before I dance under the lights, in private preparation". At Hyde kids who performed well academically were (i was) singled out as "smart but not trying"...how did they know that i was not trying?? as a child I was a reader, not one who told others how hard I worked, or pretended to work hard for Hydepraise like my peers. What if I was reading the WorldBook encyclopedia as a child while the other more Joelike kids were watching Scooby Doo and telling everyone how hard they worked? Joe hated to give good grades to kids he did not personally identify with, that is why he founded Hyde School. Perhaps he was a marginal student himself and disgruntled with others who seemed to him to work less yet achieve? His subjective opinion is more important than objective truth, the childs performance and grades,,,for almost all people aptitude IS attitude, harmony is the most important thing in communication, (with out it all is lost) Achievement IS Character and achiement builds character. Please,,,,,, discuss...
--- End quote ---

I like to give the devil his due. Joe was/is correct that it takes more to be successful in life that scholastic achievement.

As a natural introvert I think it is good to learn how to work outside your comfort zone. I do. It is good to be aware of how you feel and to be aware of the emotional needs of the others that are around you. IT is good to have a sense of you place in the order of the universe. You need an emotional/physical/intellectual/spiritual balance.

Academics at Hyde were extraordinarily weak when I was there. Class taught by athletic coaches were a joke with the notable exception of Legg's class. I actually developed a love of mathematics at hyde as a result of having a lazy coach as an instructor. I ended up teaching the class because he was too lazy to wake up on time in the morning. Explaining my high school record to gain admission to an engineering college was a trip.

Spirituality at Hyde? Please some one fill in the punch line to this joke.

Physical: Hard not to be in good shape when you are there. How many Hyde graduates engage in life long fitness? I love to see hyde coaches that look like they live on twinkies and beer. Love to go to those alum events and see the guys that used to wrestle 127 look like they need special springs on their SUVs

Emotional: Spilling your guts and having a good cry is not good emotional health any more then pigging out on junk food then barfing is good nutrition.

So to some up: Joe is correct but Hyde does not deliever.
--- End quote ---

Good insight, only I am not as kind as you. I think of all the times that I was in other people's faces and feel ashamed and sorry. I hated Hyde so much and feel horrible about what I participated in. Yes there were some good lessons I learned at Hyde, but I certainly don't use them in the way Hyde tried to teach them. It does not work in the real world.

As far as the twinkies, I laughed my ass off about that. Like you I notice that as the school progresses, so do the stomachs of the staff, especially the women! I think they are eating more than twinkies!! For a school that tries to keep the students in shape, they ought to look in the mirror. Not a good example at all.

Hey, does anyone know if there is still a teacher at Woodstock campus name Kevin? He is gay and a really nice guy. Does Terry Walsh still hit the bottle and is Dubinsky still gropping the girls? I assume that Bertchy is still the "heavy weight" at the school?
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Mal, Laurie and their respective spouses are in pretty good shape. But the others you mention .... do as I say not as I do. Your body is a Temple, some folks are polytheistic and want to make room for lots of gods.

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