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Parents are warned about Hyde School by watchdog group
Ursus:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I'd be disgruntled too if my kid got substandard education and sexually harassed by the staff.
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Yep I sure got a substandard education, but according to Joe Gauld it is all about attitude vs aptitude. Problem is Joey, aptitude is how I am going to get into a good college. The attitude don't mean a whole lot withouth the aptitude. With approximately $40k a year per student how come you can't pay for good teachers?? Ha, Joey??? How come??? You are supposed to be the man with all the answers!! I challenge you to respond to this.
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I hear you. Problem is, good teachers are usually interested in teaching their chosen material, and not interested in being spokespeople for so-called educators in the emotional growth industry.
Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---I'd be disgruntled too if my kid got substandard education and sexually harassed by the staff.
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Yep I sure got a substandard education, but according to Joe Gauld it is all about attitude vs aptitude. Problem is Joey, aptitude is how I am going to get into a good college. The attitude don't mean a whole lot withouth the aptitude. With approximately $40k a year per student how come you can't pay for good teachers?? Ha, Joey??? How come??? You are supposed to be the man with all the answers!! I challenge you to respond to this.
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Allow me. Academics runs counter to the choral nature of all the activities at Hyde, whereby the school exercises control over the individual. Academics is just you and the material before you. It affirms you as an autonomous, reasoning, questioning, analyzing, problem-solving, decision-making individual. And that is the last thing Joe wants. Joe has "solved" the academics problem by reshaping the classroom into another group activity, with the strong students mentoring the weak ones, so that the group receives a grade. The result of this bounded learning dynamic is not quality work, but rather the opposite. Hyde has always excelled at producing singing, dancing, basketball-playing puppets --- not thinkers. Forget about academics at Hyde.
Mike
Ursus:
OOOOOO-K La Ho Maaa, where HIS Wind comes flushing 'way my brain...
::drummer:: ::bangin:: ::drummer::
Anonymous:
now that there is a Hyde School supporter or perhaps leader posting on the site and participating in debate , I would like to ask how do you determine attitude from aptitude?..Kids who study excell...Muhammad Ali said "the fight is won way before I dance under the lights, in private preparation". At Hyde kids who performed well academically were (i was) singled out as "smart but not trying"...how did they know that i was not trying?? as a child I was a reader, not one who told others how hard I worked, or pretended to work hard for Hydepraise like my peers. What if I was reading the WorldBook encyclopedia as a child while the other more Joelike kids were watching Scooby Doo and telling everyone how hard they worked? Joe hated to give good grades to kids he did not personally identify with, that is why he founded Hyde School. Perhaps he was a marginal student himself and disgruntled with others who seemed to him to work less yet achieve? His subjective opinion is more important than objective truth, the childs performance and grades,,,for almost all people aptitude IS attitude, harmony is the most important thing in communication, (with out it all is lost) Achievement IS Character and achiement builds character. Please,,,,,, discuss...
Ursus:
Ah, sorry, I am no leader nor was one at Hyde. Nor am I a Hyde School supporter. Perhaps you were being sarcastic and I am too obtuse to pick it up? My "comment" was perhaps an obscure reference to one of the musicals that Hyde had us participate in during the 1970's, duly paraphrased, and thereby indicating the removal of critical independent thought by way of Joe's wind. Wind also can be read as flatulence.
"Smart but not trying." I hear you.
I have also often wondered whether Joe was a marginal student himself. Certainly his way of reasoning in various formats, e.g, school meetings, lecturing the student body, as well as what little I have read of his published news articles, leaves a lot to be desired. He makes more informal fallacies (a term from Logic, as a subset of Philosophy) than anything save perhaps last minute speeches in a presedential campaign. And his so-called proofs, the studies he cites, can be picked apart in a second by any intern at a respectable peer-reviewed journal. What a joke. Its all hoopla, and emotional persuasion (read coercion), and yes, egomaniacal flatulence.
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