Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > The Ridge Creek School / Hidden Lake Academy
Federal Class-Action Lawsuit Filed Against HLA & Buccell
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---?You pay for a Lincoln Towncar and you get a Ford Pinto,? surmised Davidoff. ?That's what this is.?
?It's still a Ford,? replied O'Kelly.
So is this the judge's logic?:
"You pay for a Therapeutic Boarding School that is supposed to have certified teachers and trained, skilled counselors and you get a TBS (which, by the way, has fought state regulation for years) that has uncertified teachers (some of the teachers aren't even real teachers) and untrained, unskilled counselors," surmises John Doe. "That's what this is."
"It's still a school," - replies the judge.
--- End quote ---
And, according to Ford, Lincoln Town Car, is a Mercury.
How would Delta feel if they ordered a Boeing 767 and they received a Boeing 717....?
"It is still a Boeing"..... I don't think so.
Anonymous:
We came from two counties away, not out of state. From what I remember, almost all cooks, maintenance, security, shipping, janitorial, and the ex ranger camp workers were living in the county already when they got hired. The main ones that came from out of state were counselers who graduated colleges in other states, and maybe a few teachers. But some teachers graduated from North Georgia which is in Dahlonega so they were in county. And almost all of the office employees, clerical type, were in-county. I would say when I was there, 1994-2001, at least 70% of the employees were from North Georgia area. Thats from those years, I have no idea after 2002 what the in-county percentage was of employees. Where you find the out of state hires is in counseling roles mainly and some higher up management positions.
Anonymous:
Yeah, the observation by the judge doesn't look like his head is in a good place. On the other hand, it's not a ruling.
Say you bought a German Shepherd dog. Say it was very different from the quality of dog you thought you were buying.
It's still a dog, sure, but then the next question becomes important:
Did the seller make material misrepresentations to the buyer?
Did the seller, for instance, show the buyer a falsified pedigree that asserts both parents are champions, when the bitch is from a backyard breeder and the dog who fathered the litter looks like a German Shepherd dog but has no pedigree at all?
Did the seller ensure the puppy was healthy and free of hip defects when it's a sick little sucker?
Did the seller sell *a lot* of puppies who had similarly falsified records? For example, was the seller a pet store chain that sold a lot of sick and/or pedigree-falsified dogs to hundreds of people?
It may still be a dog, but once you get to the next question on the list, it still qualifies as a class.
So, "It's still a Ford," may just mean, "You can't show me you paid for a Ford and got a Schwinn--it's another Ford. So now you're gonna have to show me you've got enough evidence of a pattern of material misrepresentations about this Ford that meet the right criteria for me to certify this as a class."
Don't read too much into the comment. It doesn't look good, but still.
Julie
Anonymous:
There's a ton of evidence/documentation, but it's whether or not the court chooses to look at the evidence/documentation. Federal court is vastly different than Civil court.
Anonymous:
Wouldn't you think that the length of time this is taking favors the plantiffs? It at least seems like the judge is looking at the evidence and seriously weighing it. If the judge were just completely closed off to the idea of certifying it, he could have come back with a judgement much sooner. Of course I may just be showing my ignorance in such matters.
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