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velvet2000:
I don't think she's saying that there's something wrong with people who do use recreationally Anon, just that they aren't good for you.
Anonymous:
No, drugs aren't good for you...niether is sunshine, fried food, municipal water, or missing church on Sunday. I heard enough of people saying what is "wrong" and what is "right" in Straight. One thing that helped me get past my experience in the program was making my own decisions. Wisdom today, in my opinion, is the understanding that everyone has a dynamically different opinion on what is categorically defined as "wrong" or "right" in society.
Personally I wouldn't be so bold as to answer the question in the thread "So you all think doing drugs is ok?". Furthermore, to say "they are ok for medical use" would only define me as a steeply opinionated and maybe prematurely vocal individual.
How and who is to judge whether or not it is ok if I go in the bathroom and shoot up, throw up, and nod off for awhile? Contrarily speaking, who is to say whether it is ok or not if I "recreationally" toke a joint at a Pink Floyd concert? Or if that toke or fix was "medically" used because I have glaucoma or HIV? The "right or wrong" arguement regarding drug use (and what are drugs...caffeine? tobacco? what is use? Once a week, twice? What is abuse? Five times a day? Heroin once a year?) is a mute point not only here on the boards but also in the real world for those with wisdom enough to understand the fundamental meaning of controversy. Robert DuPont(fucking fool) made the arguement about marijuana being a "gateway drug", which also sits right on the fence with other controversial, unquanitative, and mute points. Is holding hands or kissing the "gateway-foreplay" to veneral disease and AIDS? Will we discuss are deepest opinions on religion, abortion, and politics next? Straight is over, there are no absolutes in nature, and right and wrong is only a matter of personal opinion that should remain just that--a personal opinion.
I apologize for getting so wound up and long winded, I just hate to read "DRUGS ARE WRONG" in a forum such as this. I also hate to see that still so many need to pull the DARE sticker off the bumper, smoke a joint and relax.
str8jack-it
velvet2000:
Anon, I wouldn't have a problem if someone came in here and did announce their beliefs in religion or politics, even if I disputed it. Perhaps what you might be upset about is Lady's deffinition of the word "wrong". In Synanon type programs they are saying that drugs are wrong in a sinful type way. They say that anyone who uses drugs is a wrong person, or that they have it all wrong. We were told that everything we did in our lives up until the program we were in was completely wrong, and drugs were the highlight of our wrongness. I don't see any harm in stating that drugs are not okay, as long as that persopn is not coming here to manipulate you out of your ways, or treat drug users as if they are less than, and from what I've read lady was not doing that.
Velvet
ladyjerrico:
In response to the word "wrong"
Let me say that for me saying "that's so wrong".. it is slang for me to use (thanks to my friend Terry).
I want to clerify that I'm not saying what I mean is "right" or "wrong".. it's the way I talk verbally.
I want to make that clear for future postings or people who see that word that I type.
I'm not saying what anyone is doing here is right or wrong.. I'm not the judge of someone else, nor am I trying to cause an arguement.
I know it's hard to express feelings and personality in typing.. that's one thing about the internet that is a bit lagging.
Sorry for the confusion
ladyjerrico:
also in response to using drugs..
In my personal opinion (everyone has their own).. I agree everything is bad for you.
I'm talking about hardcore drugs like majuania (sp?) cocaine, crack.. what-have-you.. that is what I mean by it shouldn't be used for recreational purposes.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion.. so bash me if you want to.. I have my own opinion.
As far as drinking goes. I have one on occassion, but those days for me are over.. people are entitled to do what they want to as long as they don't make me a part of their bad habits.
I think that people would live longer if they abide by a diet, excersize and good nutrition.. there are complications I understand like depression or diabetes.
But in the overall general aspect of life, I think that those who choose recreational drugs (the ones listed above) are looking for a shorter lifespan than those who don't
This is the point I'm trying to make
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