Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > Hyde Schools
i'm an incoming senior....to parents interested
Anonymous:
Billy,
Disgruntled former students have been around ever since the dawn of Hyde. Nothing has been more constant in Hyde's history than disgruntled former students. It is a phenomenon, not a series of isolated events.
It is a big mistake to treat our criticisms as invalid. You take all our criticisms of the school --- of the brainwashing, the coercion, the misuse of punishments and rewards, the demoralization of the skeptics --- and dismiss them by calling them invalid. They are not invalid. Though it hurts, they may be and often are valid. If the criticism is valid, once you understand that it is, you can at least somehow address the problem. If you simply dismiss it as invalid, you cannot address the problem.
We all want to be better people, Billy. It is how Hyde tries to make us better people that makes us so disgruntled. In my view, the only reason that Hyde, its modus operandi, is not illegal is low public awareness. But paradoxically, that will change with the spread of Hyde Schools and with it the flow of information between mental health professionals, legislators, educators, jurists, and Hyde's disgruntled parents and students.
Mike
Anonymous:
Billy,
After you have been out of Hyde for awhile things will start happening to you emotionally and mentally. Many of these symptoms will be subtle at first. IT is the post traumatic stress from adapting to a coercive environment. Hyde is practicing medicine without a license, Mental health is a medical issue. Hyde is screwing with your mind, winding it up like a spring. When you get out the spring may pop. Beware. I have seen it happen to some of the Leaders I went to school with. Billy , good luck. Remember a cult is like an onion. As you go through your senior year you will exposed to some of the inner layers. Please be skeptical. Remember this is your life. Hyde will take no responsibility if the thoughts they plant in your mind blow up. Like I say beware, some of the folks that did not and could not handle it are DEAD.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Billy,
Disgruntled former students have been around ever since the dawn of Hyde. Nothing has been more constant in Hyde's history than disgruntled former students. It is a phenomenon, not a series of isolated events.
It is a big mistake to treat our criticisms as invalid. You take all our criticisms of the school --- of the brainwashing, the coercion, the misuse of punishments and rewards, the demoralization of the skeptics --- and dismiss them by calling them invalid. They are not invalid. Though it hurts, they may be and often are valid. If the criticism is valid, once you understand that it is, you can at least somehow address the problem. If you simply dismiss it as invalid, you cannot address the problem.
We all want to be better people, Billy. It is how Hyde tries to make us better people that makes us so disgruntled. In my view, the only reason that Hyde, its modus operandi, is not illegal is low public awareness. But paradoxically, that will change with the spread of Hyde Schools and with it the flow of information between mental health professionals, legislators, educators, jurists, and Hyde's disgruntled parents and students.
Mike
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You are so right, Mike. There is a widespread pattern of criticisms leveled at Hyde. There are lots of bad stories. Are there good stories, too? Sure. But people shouldn't dismiss the overwhelming, consistent pattern of bad stories. I couldn't agree more: Hyde gets away with this because for so long it has operated out of the public's view and scrutiny. The Internet, and this website, have changed that. Hyde has been "outed." I'm fine with public debate about Hyde. Let the proponents have their say. But, don't discount the critics. Much of what they have to say about Hyde's MO and destructive features is very valid.
Thanks, Mike.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---Billy,
Disgruntled former students have been around ever since the dawn of Hyde. Nothing has been more constant in Hyde's history than disgruntled former students. It is a phenomenon, not a series of isolated events.
It is a big mistake to treat our criticisms as invalid. You take all our criticisms of the school --- of the brainwashing, the coercion, the misuse of punishments and rewards, the demoralization of the skeptics --- and dismiss them by calling them invalid. They are not invalid. Though it hurts, they may be and often are valid. If the criticism is valid, once you understand that it is, you can at least somehow address the problem. If you simply dismiss it as invalid, you cannot address the problem.
We all want to be better people, Billy. It is how Hyde tries to make us better people that makes us so disgruntled. In my view, the only reason that Hyde, its modus operandi, is not illegal is low public awareness. But paradoxically, that will change with the spread of Hyde Schools and with it the flow of information between mental health professionals, legislators, educators, jurists, and Hyde's disgruntled parents and students.
Mike
--- End quote ---
You are so right, Mike. There is a widespread pattern of criticisms leveled at Hyde. There are lots of bad stories. Are there good stories, too? Sure. But people shouldn't dismiss the overwhelming, consistent pattern of bad stories. I couldn't agree more: Hyde gets away with this because for so long it has operated out of the public's view and scrutiny. The Internet, and this website, have changed that. Hyde has been "outed." I'm fine with public debate about Hyde. Let the proponents have their say. But, don't discount the critics. Much of what they have to say about Hyde's MO and destructive features is very valid.
Thanks, Mike.
--- End quote ---
Beware of the dangers at Hyde School. I am a female former student who didn't do any of the things you are talking about in your posts Bill. I was a decent girl who had low self esteem and didn't get good grades. My Mother was talked into sending me there by my father who just wanted to get rid of me because his new wife didn't like having me around.
Hyde did little to build my self esteem and in fact they destroyed what little I had left. Hyde taught me to trust no one especially those in an authoritative position. Hyde exposed me to drugs and alcohol, (not that I never would have been) as well as bulimia and suicide. While at Hyde I also had to listen in family seminar's to insane stories by students and parents about crazy things that happened in their families including incese, homosexuality, etc. This was all so foreign to me, but thank you to Hyde I did get quite an education.
I came out of Hyde with all the above deep knowledge, but little of the education I needed to go forward in my life. One thing Hyde did not teach me was study skills, but thanks Hyde for all else you exposed me to and taught me! I don't think I could have gotten this anywhere else nor can you pay for an education like this.
P.S. I did leave Hyde and decide that I wanted more in life, so got myself that education and hate to even think about those years long ago at Hyde. God Bless the rest of you.
Anonymous:
Urs, it's unfortunate all I can call you is that. That you must hide behind a mask, a fasade(probably not spelled right). I was really hoping you were a younger former student so the childish-ness could be easily accounted for. It's unfortunate you cannot see something from a somewhat-objective point of view because as I read your post, it's apparant the tone behind it.
All schools have lots of dirty laundry: even the Exiters, Tafts, and Blairs (i have a friend currently at one, my mom went to taft, and i have a cousin who was kicked out of there this year, if you think i'm throwing names around). Public, private, boarding, alternative schools all have dirty laundry. No school has it right though. Many tried, and yet, no one has it right. Including Hyde. Who wants to go through something really really hard for four years. I would have ended up this way eventually: but a lot later and the road would have been a lot worse had I gone to, let's say, my local public school NVOT. | had pretty good morals, a few loose screws back right before I came to Hyde. I was a good kid. Very rule-oriented for fear of punishment, but a good kid. The fear of punishment carried through the majority of being at Hyde. But I had no self-confidence, low self-esteem, no social skills to speak of. Being at Hyde, for me, gave me a new opportunity to try again. I didn't make a bunch of friends at Hyde right away. But Hyde did give me the opportunity, through the requirements it has, to build self-esteem (sports, academics with a combination of attitude and effort, the standard of having to have a clean room, having to get on stage and dacne). I did all the work. Hyde gave me a safe environment to do it. When I left Hyde this past summer and went to California to a program for 10 days (non Hyde related) with "real" kids...i did just fine. They gravitated towards me. Girls paid attention to me, guys thought I was a funny guy who had a good heart. Weird to me. And I knew it had paid off. There are other programs and schools that can help that. Hyde is one of them. If you put the right work attitude and mind set into it. Otherwise, it'll only take you so far. Hyde has many bad stories. Yea, so do other schools, but other than Aspen, Family Foundation, etc...the other ones on this site, I don't hear you complaining about your local school, your alma maters(is that right?). Brainwashing? Please, sir. I don't believe everything Hyde faculty tells me. I, unlike many parents and students I've seen through here in 4 years, listen, think about it, think about it later, than dismiss it if necessary, leaving grudges behind me. YES, EVERY ONCE AND AWHILE, I'LL STILL HAVE A SORE SPOT THAT I HAVE TO DEA LWITH LATER, but I don't go complain about it on a website with a one-way view, possibly an ignorant one, patronizing a teenager behind an anonymous nickname. Asking a higher up at hyde about what they think about this site(b/c they don't moniter it, but they do know about it and take a peek around every once and awhile) and he said (i'm paraphrasing)"I'm willing to have a conersation face-to-face or even over the phone. But I will not have a discussion under a mask of anonymity." So do the respectable thing. I've given tours to families who ask some of the kids that hate hyde the most what they thought. They didn't lie. But they weren't obnoxious or childish about it. They were like "I don't like it, but i know it's good for me" or "i'd rather be somewhere else" or "i'm looking at other schools for next year" or something like that. But many of you "guests" on this board are the type of kids like Matt Mumford who would yell as I pass with them "Don't send your kid here!" or "Turn back now!" or "Get out while you can!"
Again, to start, you need an objective view. I've always been an objective kid. I can put feelings aside and spurt what's right, not what I wnat to be right(most of the time, I have my situations here and there, I actually had one quite recently if you want to hear about it, shoot me an email). But seriously, grow up. Because putting smiley faces and patronizing people is what I did in grade school. Because by doing that, you're acting like Matt. And he was a boy trapped in an 18-year old's body.
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