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i'm an incoming senior....to parents interested
Anonymous:
I'm leaving for europe today to go on a trip with some hyde kids and 2 faculty to london/paris for a week. i want to just get a post in now before people think i'm avoiding ya'll again.
To start with questions from above:
Yes, I go to school with the Dubinsky's. Josh went to Summer Challenge with me back in '03 at woodstock. He went up to bath his junior year and will graduate there. Ashley graduated my sophomore year. I ran track with her. Ally's a freshman now at woodstock. Jenna's i believe 10 or a 11...
My dad is also Bill Procida. He does a lot of work with real estate business. My grandpa and my uncle do more construction in the city. My dad's not involved with Hyde, but has settled his disputes with them from way back when. He still has grown using a different path.
Mr. Lord is teaching at Vermont Academy right now.
--- Quote ---Thanks for offering so much detail about Hyde. It seems that many kids leave Hyde before graduating. What's your impression of the reasons?
Also, are you concerned that Hyde monitors this website? Is there any risk for you when you post your opinions like this?
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Before, kids were able to leave because their parent either were displeased with the school's performance with their family. Some were valid, some I knew weren't giving it a full effort. Others really made a lot of growth but didn't want to do senior year there. I've talked to those types: some are doing well. But others aren't. I know of at least one that's homeless.
Am I scared?: I'm not as concerned about them just like I'm not concerned that jerk ex/former students that just wanted to smoke pot all day but Hyde said no to, that they check and post on the site as well. There won't be repurcussions. Sure, someone might talk to me, but probably not in a negative manner. I've been here for 4 years. There's no question about MY commitment. I went here for a long time and everything Hyde told me. I needed something to believe in. Then, I created my own views. Some things I don't have the same exact idea as Hyde does, and that's okay. Part of the senior year is figuring out what you do or don't believe in. Any of you who've heard of Mark Duethorn's ethics class, that's what we do. We question the process and analyze it and figure out, within the safety of that Lecture Hall, what we actually do believe in personally. The underclassmen usually come in (i know i did) needed a structure and some principles given to them. NOT ALL. I SAID USUALLY, AND YES IT IS MOST. I did that. Then I decided myself. For example, I don't believe in a UNIQUE Potential. But I believe in something very similar. I've written this on Senior Eval sheets that go directly to Mr. MacMillan and LG herself. I haven't been reprimanded. Hyde faculty (notice I didn't make the buildings and the actual thing out to be a real person. a big pet peeve of mine is when people say, "hyde school does this and that" and i say "Nay. Hyde School is a bunch of buildings. be more specific on whom. And then I usually don't get an answer back because it was just whiny students that want to be lazy or go get messed up every night) won't tell me I can't post here. I someone did, I frankly wouldn't care. I know that there's nothing wrong. I say the same things when I'm at Hyde. The issue if anyone has been spoken to is because they may be living a double life. One when faculty and seniors are around. another when they're not. If they're two DRASTICALLY different people, then there's a huge integrity issue there.
What I don't like about LG?
She's VERY conservative. I'm VERY NOT. Haha. I don't dislike her. I disagree on many small things, but i don't dislike. I think she did awesome things for the campus. She moved the guys dorm to westhaver and annhurst(the old FLC wings, very nice. I lucked out with one of these much bigger rooms) and the girls to Warren. this put the majorit yof the student body (and let's face it, the energy) to the center of campus. and the School Store(not the bookstore) that students run (Gary, you might know about htis one, Dan worked in it a lot) got moved into the gym. She also moved classroom locations around. So the entire flow and energy of campus is in the center, which means people go around the quad. If people want to go out to get food, they have to leave their dorm. The student center lounge is now in the bottom of westhaver. So everyone is out of their dorms more and around the same area most the time. It was really ingenious. Her school meetings are also more pertinent to the school and what's going on there. And a little more focused and controled then Mr. McCrann's. His were great(his meeting on forgiveness inspired me to write a letter to the huge bully from my youth. we're straight now. i'm usually with him on breaks hanging out and goin to parties and stuff), but there was a lack of something. but i disagree on smaller things: such as not allowing us to have limos for prom this year. And other things like her not letting kids do chest painting at the big sporting events. She's just conservative. It's funny in my mind. But she's great. I wish she was more available. She's a busy woman. Everytime you pass her office, she's on the phone with someone.
I'm off to Europe for the week. So if you don't hear back about a question you ask right away, it doesn't mean i work for hyde and am scared. It means I'm chillaxin in London and Paris. Again, Hyde's got faults, but the core belief of being a better person really can't be argued with. The faults are mostly in the practice, but that's because we're all human too. We're all in the Process, so we will all struggle. Even faculty. Trust me, there are (for you complaining students) stricter schools (i.e. Family Foundation, Swift River, etc.) and parents, all schools have slip ups. All schools expel kids (although this year, we've had the least number of expulsions/seniors getting kicked out/people getting sent to bath/seniors getting demoted...that's LG's doing). I'll be back and checking. I hope there's something to respond to when I'm back.
- Bill Procida[/quote]
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""bill procida"" ---Hyde faculty (notice I didn't make the buildings and the actual thing out to be a real person. a big pet peeve of mine is when people say, "hyde school does this and that" and i say "Nay. Hyde School is a bunch of buildings. be more specific on whom. And then I usually don't get an answer back because it was just whiny students that want to be lazy or go get messed up every night) won't tell me I can't post here.
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The reason people refer to Hyde School as a separate entity is because it... well... IS a separate entity! You do understand this, don't you?
When you attend Hyde, and your parents pay for you to attend Hyde, there are certain responsibilities and expectations you and your parents (should) have of Hyde School as part and parcel of that contract. The faculty that work at Hyde are (supposed to be) acting as representatives of said institution, not personal buddies or enemies of you or what have you.
There are very important legal ramifications to this distinction. It is NOT an idiosyncratic form of expression that is elective, as you seem wont to portray...
Ursus:
--- Quote from: ""Bill Procida"" ---Another one of them went up to the Bath campus half-way through because he wanted a change (and his mom worked at the woodstock campus)...
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--- Quote from: ""Bill Procida"" ---Yes, I go to school with the Dubinsky's. Josh went to Summer Challenge with me back in '03 at woodstock. He went up to bath his junior year and will graduate there.
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Sounds to me like the decision for Josh's transfer had less to do with his mom than his dad. Care to comment on this?
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""bill procida"" ---I'm leaving for europe today to go on a trip with some hyde kids and 2 faculty to london/paris for a week. i want to just get a post in now before people think i'm avoiding ya'll again.
To start with questions from above:
Yes, I go to school with the Dubinsky's. Josh went to Summer Challenge with me back in '03 at woodstock. He went up to bath his junior year and will graduate there. Ashley graduated my sophomore year. I ran track with her. Ally's a freshman now at woodstock. Jenna's i believe 10 or a 11...
My dad is also Bill Procida. He does a lot of work with real estate business. My grandpa and my uncle do more construction in the city. My dad's not involved with Hyde, but has settled his disputes with them from way back when. He still has grown using a different path.
Mr. Lord is teaching at Vermont Academy right now.
--- Quote ---Thanks for offering so much detail about Hyde. It seems that many kids leave Hyde before graduating. What's your impression of the reasons?
Also, are you concerned that Hyde monitors this website? Is there any risk for you when you post your opinions like this?
--- End quote ---
Before, kids were able to leave because their parent either were displeased with the school's performance with their family. Some were valid, some I knew weren't giving it a full effort. Others really made a lot of growth but didn't want to do senior year there. I've talked to those types: some are doing well. But others aren't. I know of at least one that's homeless.
Am I scared?: I'm not as concerned about them just like I'm not concerned that jerk ex/former students that just wanted to smoke pot all day but Hyde said no to, that they check and post on the site as well. There won't be repurcussions. Sure, someone might talk to me, but probably not in a negative manner. I've been here for 4 years. There's no question about MY commitment. I went here for a long time and everything Hyde told me. I needed something to believe in. Then, I created my own views. Some things I don't have the same exact idea as Hyde does, and that's okay. Part of the senior year is figuring out what you do or don't believe in. Any of you who've heard of Mark Duethorn's ethics class, that's what we do. We question the process and analyze it and figure out, within the safety of that Lecture Hall, what we actually do believe in personally. The underclassmen usually come in (i know i did) needed a structure and some principles given to them. NOT ALL. I SAID USUALLY, AND YES IT IS MOST. I did that. Then I decided myself. For example, I don't believe in a UNIQUE Potential. But I believe in something very similar. I've written this on Senior Eval sheets that go directly to Mr. MacMillan and LG herself. I haven't been reprimanded. Hyde faculty (notice I didn't make the buildings and the actual thing out to be a real person. a big pet peeve of mine is when people say, "hyde school does this and that" and i say "Nay. Hyde School is a bunch of buildings. be more specific on whom. And then I usually don't get an answer back because it was just whiny students that want to be lazy or go get messed up every night) won't tell me I can't post here. I someone did, I frankly wouldn't care. I know that there's nothing wrong. I say the same things when I'm at Hyde. The issue if anyone has been spoken to is because they may be living a double life. One when faculty and seniors are around. another when they're not. If they're two DRASTICALLY different people, then there's a huge integrity issue there.
What I don't like about LG?
She's VERY conservative. I'm VERY NOT. Haha. I don't dislike her. I disagree on many small things, but i don't dislike. I think she did awesome things for the campus. She moved the guys dorm to westhaver and annhurst(the old FLC wings, very nice. I lucked out with one of these much bigger rooms) and the girls to Warren. this put the majorit yof the student body (and let's face it, the energy) to the center of campus. and the School Store(not the bookstore) that students run (Gary, you might know about htis one, Dan worked in it a lot) got moved into the gym. She also moved classroom locations around. So the entire flow and energy of campus is in the center, which means people go around the quad. If people want to go out to get food, they have to leave their dorm. The student center lounge is now in the bottom of westhaver. So everyone is out of their dorms more and around the same area most the time. It was really ingenious. Her school meetings are also more pertinent to the school and what's going on there. And a little more focused and controled then Mr. McCrann's. His were great(his meeting on forgiveness inspired me to write a letter to the huge bully from my youth. we're straight now. i'm usually with him on breaks hanging out and goin to parties and stuff), but there was a lack of something. but i disagree on smaller things: such as not allowing us to have limos for prom this year. And other things like her not letting kids do chest painting at the big sporting events. She's just conservative. It's funny in my mind. But she's great. I wish she was more available. She's a busy woman. Everytime you pass her office, she's on the phone with someone.
I'm off to Europe for the week. So if you don't hear back about a question you ask right away, it doesn't mean i work for hyde and am scared. It means I'm chillaxin in London and Paris. Again, Hyde's got faults, but the core belief of being a better person really can't be argued with. The faults are mostly in the practice, but that's because we're all human too. We're all in the Process, so we will all struggle. Even faculty. Trust me, there are (for you complaining students) stricter schools (i.e. Family Foundation, Swift River, etc.) and parents, all schools have slip ups. All schools expel kids (although this year, we've had the least number of expulsions/seniors getting kicked out/people getting sent to bath/seniors getting demoted...that's LG's doing). I'll be back and checking. I hope there's something to respond to when I'm back.
- Bill Procida
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I admire your candor. You seem to be thoughtul and able to recognize what's been positive about Hyde for you and what leaves at lot to be desired. For myself, it's been hard to see the positive at Hyde. I've seen too many people limp away from Hyde because it was a bad experience and the wrong place. No matter how good Hyde is for some people, I'm convinced that Hyde is a very bad place for many. I agree that it's not always fair to talk about Hyde in general, but there's so much about the school that I don't like. I like some individuals, but I definitely don't like the people there who are cruel, in your face, and condemning. I don't like incompetence, and I've seen much too much of that at Hyde.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""bill procida"" ---again, no one's a certified psychologist or counselor (except Don MacMillan).
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Interesting that you mention Mr McMillan as the one person at Hyde who has some type of degree in social work or psychology. If my memory serves me right, this is the same Mr McMillan who lost his cool with a student and tried to choke him as his temper got the best of him.
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from hyde's website, news section:
--- Quote ---Hyde School Welcomes New Associate Head, Don MacMillan
12/21/2006
Woodstock, CT?Hyde School welcomes Don MacMillan to the new position of Associate Head of School. Rejoining the Hyde Organization after a break during which he acquired a master?s degree in counseling psychology from Antioch Graduate School of New England, MacMillan wanted to return to all the action of Hyde School.
MacMillan started with Hyde in 1983 and has held many different positions with the organization?from faculty intern to basketball, wrestling, and lacrosse coach, to founding headmaster of the Hyde Leadership Public Charter School in Washington, DC.
MacMillan sees a bright future for Hyde-Woodstock, noting: ?We want to continue to attract students and families who are motivated to do well academically and athletically, and who desire to experience personal growth. We are doing a better job of that as an organization, and will continue to grow. I think the ?Know Yourself, Be Yourself? workshop offered to the Woodstock Middle School recently was a great step to becoming active in the larger community. We have working relationships with Woodstock Academy and Woodstock Middle School that are good for all involved.?
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