Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > PURE Bullshit and CAICA
SUE SCHEFF and ISABELLE ZENDHER (PURE, CAICA, WWASP lawsuit)
CCM girl 1989:
Look dumbass isn't the worst thing I've been called! It's fine, really we all have our opinions. And for Niles, whatever bud, don't tell me what terms to use and which ones not to. I speak from my mind, heart, and soul I can't control the phrases I use. And if it upsets you, I am real sorry but you do stuff, and say stuff that I don't care for and drives me up a wall at times. Whatever who cares!
Nihilanthic:
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--- Quote from: "GuestHave your opinions I will have mine. So what if you're 10 years older then me? By calling me a little girl I only assumed someone such as yourself who has the brain the size of a pea thought CCM girl 1989 meant that was the year I was born! BTW, if your 12 and getting knocked up.........um maybe I want you to use a condom. Not only will it prevent that, but it could prevent you contacting an STD or HIV for god sakes.
You're not going to change my mind. It's not my job to go out there and find good treatment facilities. They do exist. You are a complete moron if you don't think they do. What, you want me on my own dime, to go out there and start investigation and locating these places for parents? And of course not make any money doing it!!!!! This whole subject is turning into a joke.[/quote ---
If you cant even begin to define what makes a treatment facility good, what the guidelines are, what it does, how it does it, and what necessitates going there, then how do we even know it exists?
We're asking for an EXAMPLE, CCM. Can you provide one? Can you even talk about what a good program is LIKE? The point here isnt to defend programs, its to talk about willing treatment for kids, and only forced treatment or incarceration when absolutely necessary, not go "oh there is a good one somewhere, go find it, if you cant its your fault".
FYI, the kind of "program" (though I'd be more inclined to call it a halfway house) is the sort that doesnt keep them locked in, have arbitrary rules, levels, take things away, etc, at all.
Its more like a place they can live with NORMAL 'structure' and rules, but theyre free to have friends, go get jobs, and go to school. Yeah, normal 'structure' like cleaning up after themselves and hygene, but not the twisted version of 'structure' people throw around all the time with levels, psycho-emotional bullshit, isolation, levels, bla bla bla.
That would be a 'good program', though the world 'program' is twisted and tained by places calling themselves such for the past 20-30 years. That would do a lot more good than some lockin facility to make them change and grow and throw around buzzwords right and left. dont you think?
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Nihilanthic:
--- Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989"" ---Look dumbass isn't the worst thing I've been called! It's fine, really we all have our opinions. And for Niles, whatever bud, don't tell me what terms to use and which ones not to. I speak from my mind, heart, and soul I can't control the phrases I use. And if it upsets you, I am real sorry but you do stuff, and say stuff that I don't care for and drives me up a wall at times. Whatever who cares!
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Twisted buzzwords make communication difficult.
I prefer speaking clearly and explicitly.
CCM girl 1989:
You were pretty vague when you said you been in one. Well, I assumed since we were in the WWASPS forum it happened to be a WWASPS facility you were in. Which when you called me little girl it made no sense, blah, blah, blah because I was there in the very beginning. Whatever, I am over it if you are!
Nihilanthic:
--- Quote from: ""CCM girl 1989"" ---You were pretty vague when you said you been in one. Well, I assumed since we were in the WWASPS forum it happened to be a WWASPS facility you were in. Which when you called me little girl it made no sense, blah, blah, blah because I was there in the very beginning. Whatever, I am over it if you are!
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I never said I was in a program, ever. An anon did, who is very much not me.
And no I havent been in a program... unless I mistook who you were talking to.
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