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Son talking about comiting suicide.
« on: August 25, 2006, 05:56:54 PM »
My son has been talking about comiting suicide. I am loking into finding him a program that wil fit his needs. Any suggestions would be very welcomed. He has tried several antidepresants but none have been effective.
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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2006, 06:12:32 PM »
Your local state mental hospital almost certainly has some openings, and a degreed psychiatrist to determine if placement is necessary.

Why would you want or need anything else?

Alternatively you can encourage him to read Fornits for a while. The massive rage he'll probably get reading this site may override any thoughts of self-harm.
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« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2006, 06:48:18 PM »
Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penal""
Your local state mental hospital almost certainly has some openings, and a degreed psychiatrist to determine if placement is necessary.

Why would you want or need anything else?

Alternatively you can encourage him to read Fornits for a while. The massive rage he'll probably get reading this site may override any thoughts of self-harm.


Be a better parent?

Most likely if antidepressants arent fixing it its an exogenous depression. Something or someone is making his life that unpleasant.

But save us all the trouble, go to struggling teens and get told to have him escorted somewhere where he cant talk to you or anyone else freely so he can be have a breakdown, so he can't 'hide whats going on', 'work the program', and come out a 'changed', 'emotionally grown' teenager.

And I'm sure they'll just find all sorts of shit wrong with him to further convince you to keep him in the program, blame it all on him and find a way to make you the victim.

Isnt that what you want? Attention? It sure is what THEY want.

I dont know how the hell locking a kid in a BM program that doesnt do a DAMNED thing how MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS HANDLE THIS is going to help him at all. Why not get someone whose actually a therapist who actually knows what they're doing, instead of a lockup/isolation+suffering based "emotioanl growth"  :roll: program where everything is blamed on him?

Quite frankly the idea of a program at all is ridiculous, but I just live in the real world, not one where you have your (child) problems taken away like a car to a Shop or a computer to Best Buy.
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« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2006, 11:00:49 PM »
"Concerned Parent" at least now your son gets to talk to you.
Once he's in a program, there goes that RIGHT, no more talking to parents!!!!
Get your son to a legitimate therapist; and support him.
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2006, 03:51:23 AM »
If I knew that my child was suicidal, I'd drop everything in my life and keep 'em as close to me as possible.  

I'd talk to him about it.  I'd turn the lights out at night with him in bed and me sitting nearby . . . talking is easier with lights out.  

What's so bad that he feels he must die for it?

What does "he" need to improve his situation?  There are always a million alternatives, make a list, think up choices yourself.  Put down the best, the worst and in-betweeners.

Talk to him about the true value of his life.  I believe that we all have a very specific purpose in life and that no one else on Earth can do it.  Times are stressed these days, and we definitely need everyone doing their job.

He's got one, it relates to what he really, really loves to do and often did as a young child.  Encourage him and get whatever he needs to be able to do this on a regular basis.  He builds in body, mind and soul when doing this activity.

I also believe that, in spirit form, we chose to come to these particular parents and this particular time.  Why?  What experiences does he tend to draw to him?  Victim?  Bully?  Out-of-control drugs?  In the pattern of experiences, there is a clear message to be learned.  Learn it and you get to move on to different experiences.

Does he have demons from his past that you may be unaware of ?  Abuse, loneliness, inability to fit in, shunned, belittled???

As I said in a previous post, I'd get a chiropractic adjustment first, every nerve to everything in the physical body goes through the spine.  Things can't function properly if they aren't getting the proper electrical feed (sets up chemical imbalances 'cause glands and organs can't work correctly).

I'd get him into a once-a-week full body massage (NOT deep and painful) and possibly Reiki.  Deep, deep relaxation, time to think and be pampered.  It also unclogs blocked pathways in the body and reduces pent-up body stress.

I'd get him into a homeopathic physician ASAP . . . this begins working within 15 minutes.  See my previous post.  If you need the link, I'll dig it up.

I'd begin the Bach Flower Remedies on him . . . they work on emotions and mindsets.  Negative emotions and mindsets create dis-ease.

I'd take him to private counseling sessions, but I'd interview their philosophies first.  I know Dr. Phil is hooked in with the Big Plan for the World (which includes the current dismantling of America and other developed countries and the current "bringing in-line" of radical nations), but his "no BS style" is pretty effective.  Cut through the crap and get to the core.

I'd keep that boy real close to me.  I'd love him, I'd talk with him, I'd do things with, and for, him.  I'd hug him a lot and talk about the things that he's interested in.  I'd fill him in on some of my weakest moments and deepest, darkest fears.  We all have them, he is not alone or different, he just needs help right now.  Then, I'd love him, I'd talk with him, I'd do things with, and for, him, etc., etc.

I'd also look at my life to see what's so wrong that it could allow this to develop into suicide, and I'd make positive changes immediately, even if radical changes are needed.  Maybe the two of you could go for all of the above treatments/counseling together on occasion.  Many problem children have problems at home -- fix the problems with yourself.

And, I'd pray every night to God.  I'd put up a blanket of God's pure white light and love, and I'd surround him with it constantly -- upon arising in the morning, constantly throughout the day (you're thinking about it anyway, might as well be asking for protection for him), before you go to sleep at night.  

Teach him how to put this blanket-of-protection around himself.

Then, I'd revise, edit and add to the above as progress is made.  What should result is a close knit and powerful bond between the two of you.  

This differs substantially from the result of institutionalized, separated "treatment" which is fear, mistrust and anger towards the parent.

Just my thoughts!
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2006, 08:52:14 AM »
Milk is so bored that he, too, has become a troll-- beginning posts and then answering himself.

Without The Who around to bash, you have all become "squids without an ocean."

Flowers? That's hilarious.
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2006, 09:48:53 AM »
:wave:  Who! Back to using proxy sockpuppets?

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Milk is so bored that he, too, has become a troll-- beginning posts and then answering himself.


That's about the most retarded accusation you could possibly make. If I was going to troll Fornits I'd bring another robbed character out to play. You're just sad that this joke of a topic got shot down on the first reply.

You're still a horrible parent and a worthless excuse for a human being.

Deal with it.
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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2006, 07:53:36 AM »
Milk, Paul, Luke- you are a fucking drain on humanity.
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2006, 02:03:42 AM »
suicide is not a light topic to me ..first, an aunt, then her daughter, then my sister.. no, it's not a light topic.. program is not beneficial to anyone , ever, in my opinion. had i to do things over, i would have listened more, suspended judgement more..my sister WAS telling the truth, although in a convoluted fashion. if my hindsight is of any worth, and i hope it is, here's what i would do..i would decide that this is what god has placed before me, this moment, this life, deal with it as best i can.. then.. following the dictates of first aid as i know it.. 'piss em off, then make 'em laugh' that means to engage them by whatever means, on their turf. seek and find their will to live, to fight..walk and talk, cook, do stupid things together...recognize that you may be dealing with wounds that you cannot see, or understand.. get yourself out of the picture.. a human is far more complicated than you or i or anyone can truly understand.. do not invalidize.. this person is beyond your power to 'fix', it is not your right to do so. listen and consider, especially when to do so might hurt your pride... respond as an adult, to an adult.. dis-abuse yourself of the notion that he is the crazy one, and you the sane one.. it's funner than hell to see people win, in life, love, anyway or place you can name.. find ways to do that.
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Isolate your self with the child
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2006, 02:58:41 AM »
It is almost impossible to achieve silence in a modern world. And silence is necessary for people to talk about important subject. We are surrounded by phone; email, TV, SMS etc. and it all have to be turned off.

It is not accidental that pilot during the Vietnam War did shut off their radios during air-to-air combat. They needed to stay focused on their task.

Your child also have to be focus on the message you want to give him about him thinking of leaving this life and in order to achieve that you have to remove any other disturbing factor.

If I were in a situation where nearby therapy had failed, I would arrange with my job to take some time off. I would make arrangement with my family to get the other children looked after by them. And I would take my child out in nowhere and camp with him/her alone. Of course a relative would have to come with food supplies on a regularly basis and look in if we still are alive.

But the rest of the time it would be just me and the child looking at each other and at some point start talking.

You can not know what the reason for his depression can be and if it by chance has something to do with something he could have eaten or inhaled it would take at least 36 hours for him to get into a clear state where you can talk.

But I do know from my experience of having people with thought like that at close range, that they are crying out for support and the person, who is closed to him, must be you.

So try to get to a peaceful place where you can talk undisturbed, when he is ready.
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Re: Son talking about comiting suicide.
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2006, 06:18:23 PM »
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My son has been talking about comiting suicide. I am loking into finding him a program that wil fit his needs. Any suggestions would be very welcomed. He has tried several antidepresants but none have been effective.

i am not a trained professional so i cant suggest any programs to you,however i can tell you bhm.programs are not the answer . i spent 4 yrs in one and am still dealing with the repercussions to this day as if i walked out the door yesterday. if you truly want to seek some help find a pro, otherwise send him to one of these programs and kiss your relationship with him goodbye. these people only want your money,and will probably help kill him through abuse. at the very least they will kill his personality. this may also just be his way of letting you know he needs more attention.
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was tortured at bethel childrens home for 4 yrs 84-88 i was there when it was raided

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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2006, 10:16:32 PM »
Are there any other adults in your son's life that he can talk to as well? Sometimes kids are more likely to reach to reach out to someone who is slightly removed from the situation.
Try to focus on good things that make him feel positive. Is he sporty? intellectual? just a well liked guy? focus on this
Is he seeing some kind of doctor? Talk to him about whether this person is the right fit.
Ask yourself what a sad kid can get out of a system that has a catchall approach? most porgrammes that I have seen claim to address everything from depression to substance abuse to bad behaviour. Also ask yourself how you would feel if you were sent to strangers when things got tough. Is giving him a feeling a rejection what he really needs right now?
Do not buy the idea that he is manipulating you. Even in the event that he does not really want to die, he is miserable and if he is expressing these thoughts he is telling you that he wants your help. This is NOT manipulation.
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2006, 11:41:22 PM »
I say take him out into the back yard. Hand him a knife and tell him to man up. One he drops the thing and runs off crying like a bitch, go back to reading comic books on the toilet and not worry about it.

OR..

spend more time like him and address his needs to satisfy a craving for parental attention of any sort.


TSW.
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2006, 11:55:18 PM »
errr.. not like..

Spend more time with him..

sorry in a bit of a hurry today.

TSW
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Re: Son talking about comiting suicide.
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2006, 12:01:15 AM »
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My son has been talking about comiting suicide. I am loking into finding him a program that wil fit his needs. Any suggestions would be very welcomed. He has tried several antidepresants but none have been effective.


There are several programs that will give him that extra little push he needs to go ahead and commit suicide.  I understand your concern, it really sucks how half-assed kids are these days, but with a 12Step-based teen program to motivate him, he'll be blowing his brains out in no time!  Another program success, waiting to happen!
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