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Moral Relativism and WWASPS

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Anonymous:
There is no right or wrong.

There are no accidents.


These are the values of WWASPS. Anyone who has been in a seminar knows this, these points are driven home repeatedly. It is convenient for an organization to throw out the idea of moral absolutism -- perhaps -- that child abuse is ALWAYS wrong no matter what reasoning behind it.

To WWASPies, everything that happens in their life, is directly caused by their actions. If a mugger comes up and robs you and shoots you, it's your fault. What could you have done to prevent that attack?

Sound confusing and contradictary? It is, and this is what they are teaching -- (clears throat) -- forcing down the kids throat with threat of isolation, more lockup time and even violence if they do not comply.

There is no right or wrong. Now that is a bold statement if I ever heard one. WWASPS philosophy is to destroy the 'old self' and to rebuild a 'new self', but in order to do that the facilitator must DESTROY any and all sense of previous value systems. This is done through high pressure, high drama, LGAT trainings. People throw around the term brainwashed as if it can only be done in the movies. Let me tell you right now, it is extremely easy to accomplish.

Imagine a David Duke scenario, inolving kids and parents and you might get an idea of what a seminar is like. Heard the final tapes of the Duke cult finally killing themselves? If you haven't, go take a listen, it could have been David Gilcrease himself making. Scary.

There is no right or wrong. If there is no right or wrong, then why would it be an issue for anyone if I decided to go assasinate top leaders of WWASPS. According to their own logic, there is nothing wrong with this. Heck, it would even be THEIR fault because remember, there are no accidents.

Oh, I see. Moral relativity works for the people in power, because they use force in order to enforce their version or morality, whatever that might be. When truly sick individuals are in charge of an organization, they make the rules and decide what is moral or not. Suddenly, locking a child in a dog cage is not immoral. Suddenly, and forcing children to lay face down on cement for eight hours a day is not child abuse. They somehow are able to justify pepper spraying and beating kids up.

Do you see where moral relativism leads too? It leads to thousands of parents sending their kids away, knowing full well of the damage it might cause, but they make the decision it is worth the risk. It's worth destroying the old kid's value system in order to have a new one. One that might mesh better with the parents plans, or hopes, or dreams.

What happens if a program decides that throwing kids off a cliff, in order to weed out the ones who don't really want to survive off. After all, there are no accidents. If they don't survive the fall, then they must have done something wrong. Oh, but wait, there are no right or wrongs, so maybe the kid didn't graduate the program fast enough? Gets confusing, doesn't it. That is why kids come out of these places so jaded. The kids who accepted the false teachings of WWASPS as true ARE brainwashed. They are brainwashed in the same way militant islamists and nazis and north koreans were brainwashed. This is nothing new.

Listen to a program graduate speak. First thing out of their mouth -- did you graduate the program? The reason they ask is because if you didn't they cannot be your friend. Seriously.

When there are no right or wrong, violence, murder and death occur. Are we really all that susprised at the outcome of this horrible social experiment?


Aparently, not yet.


 :(

Anonymous:
I'm strongly reminded of Scientology.

Deborah:
***There is no right or wrong. If there is no right or wrong, then why would it be an issue for anyone if I decided to go assasinate top leaders of WWASPS. According to their own logic, there is nothing wrong with this. Heck, it would even be THEIR fault because remember, there are no accidents.

The irony here, is that if there's no right or wrong, why are kids packed in their warehouses? I'm sure they're not there for doing something "right".
Double standards. Their "logic" applies when it benefits themselves.
And, how can it be the pizza's fault if it's "half baked", didn't the baker fail to cook it long enough?

mbnh31782:
Moral and WWASPS should not be in the same sentence let alone the same planet.  There is nothing moral about sending a child to a Behavior Modification Program or a Therapeutic Boarding School.  Unfortunately, society looks to label and medicate "problem" children.  


--- Quote ---The kids who accepted the false teachings of WWASPS as true ARE brainwashed. They are brainwashed in the same way militant islamists and nazis and north koreans were brainwashed. This is nothing new.
--- End quote ---

This is very true.


--- Quote ---Listen to a program graduate speak. First thing out of their mouth -- did you graduate the program? The reason they ask is because if you didn't they cannot be your friend. Seriously.
--- End quote ---


That only applies to the "brainwashed" graduates.  Other non graduates or graduates who have come to their senses realize the level of brainwashing and conformity that is forced in the programs.

Anyhow, WWASPS have no morals though they pretend they do.

Anonymous:
This bit that gets me is this:

Behaviour does not occur in a vacuum. Behaviour is interactive. There's a sort of "Which came first" relationship at work in buch of behavioural science but it can be broadly understood that when a given behaviour occurs there is a pretty logical and well understood cause and effect pattern behind it. The cause generally comes boils down to one of two things

Neurochemical: A behaviour occurs because the brain is wired that way, there;s nothing you can do about this except to manage the brain chemistry through medication/diet/wtfever

Environmental: A behaviour occurs as a response to an external stimulus or series of stimuli. This is massively more common that the neurochemical explaination but it does bring us to a startling revelation.....
Children are not defiant/disobediant/disorderly for no reason.
If your child disrespects you then you've got to ask yourself "What did I did to earn this disrespect and how can I fix it"

You can't cure a problem by attacking the symptom and behavioural issues are only symptoms of larger problem.

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