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what art said?
« on: July 26, 2006, 11:20:03 AM »
I remember art telling stories in group about the first seed but I don't remember what those stories were.  I am looking for what his story was more than what the actual facts were.  I remember something about locking a couple people in an apartment and staying with them all the time to stop them from drinking.  He told these stories all the time but I can't recall them. Does anyone else remember what he said about the seeds beginnings?  

Also, I know he said he stopped drinking with the help of AA but I don't remember any stories about rock bottom drunk days.  Does anyone else remember him telling such stories
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2006, 05:06:02 PM »
yes, I recall a story about him waking up from a drunken stupor in his car, living with his dog as his only friend. rock bottom. then getting sober thru aa and working a bellevue helping other drunks. started the seed on his boat, turning his back on successful comedy career. first seed on andrews ave.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2006, 05:38:46 PM »
Right, I remember andrews ave.  Was the drunkness and homelessness supposed to have happened after the acting career?
What are the stories you remember about the dog?

Does anybody remember the name of the film he used to tell us he was in?
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First Seedlings, on Andrews?
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2006, 06:35:25 PM »
I remember one about the first Seedlings. I assume he was talking about the Andrews bldg, but maybe some other. Said he hired a small construction crew to get the place ready and, wouldn't ya know it, they all were druggies, every las one of `em. So he sat them down and fed them beans and crackers or some such, thereby creating the very first Group made up entirely of adult newcomers.

I find the renegade, 13th stepping asshole on the beach story a whole lot more plausible myself.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2006, 07:37:30 PM »
Thats a funny sort of story, isn't it?  The construction crew was all druggies and became the first people to be saved.  Presumable they  arrived there to work.   Doesn't sound like a bunch of people who might be dead in a year.   Maybe he hired some contractors who were know to be fuck ups looking for converts.

It's a very christ like story isn't it, he opens his arms to the people and the needy masses come.  He feeds them bean and crackers and makes them whole again.

I remember he said that everybody lived in that first building newcomers and staff.  Staff taking shifts sleeping in front of the door
to keep newcomers from using again.

So was Libby supposedly the first, person he got straight on his boat?
What about Shelley I remember him telling a story about meeting her at the playboy club.  That story really messed with my wiring; first because they were both at the playboy club which even to my little 12 yr old mind did not seem like the sort of place the Messiah or his chosen should be, and secondly cause he said  when he met her she poked some other girl in the ass with an umbrella to get her away from art cause she wanted him and I knew that was most definately game playing.  

Eventually I got the nack of avoiding confusion, conflict and anxiety.  I just thought of art and shelley as gods who's actions were beyond my comprehension ---the lord works in mysterious ways.



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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2006, 11:43:54 AM »
Yeah, I know there were a lot of them in the legend. There was the one about his one true love getting hit by a car and dying in his arms or something like that. Don't remember much about that one, though.
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