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Anonymous:
HLA has about 150 kids and 115 staffers.  That's a lot of people going through this school.  If abuse is common at HLA, why wouldn't there be lots of accounts of this, on this site, the newspapers, and elsewhere?

Kids are forever on the web nowadays --        , etc.  There should be lots of testimony of abuse at HLA if such is the case.  

I looked into HLA for my kid, and talked to the parent of an alumni.  He said this site blew everything out of proportion.  He said his child is home now, and never saw or heard of abuse during his stay there of nearly 2 years.  Now what possible motivation would this child have to lie and not tell his dad about abuse?

It seems way more likely that those who claim routine abuse at HLA are just      ies with an axe to grind.

I had a son at a different boarding school.  Believe me, he would have been glad to list abuses.  Kids would love to do so.  So if you've any real doubts, the reasonable thing is to contact an alum and ask.

The conspiracy theorists at this sight might plausibly explain that kids while there are afraid to speak up because the staff might retaliate.  But 1) parents visit the place 5 times a year or so.  Any parent can see fear in their kid's eyes if abuse were happening, and 2) again, ask people that have exited the program.  

The parent I spoke to said it was not perfect.  He said the staff could have handled this or that situation differently.  But abuse, no.    With 115 staff and 150 kids over multiple years, you can bet mistakes have been made.  I wonder what it would be like if someone had been tracking mistakes at the department in which I work (aerospace) for the last 10 years.  LOTS of shortcomings.  People not treating people or situations right,  Just because this organization works with kids, can a perfect track record be expected?  That is other-worldly thinking.

It seems like a kid who is in a destruct cycle at home could really benefit at HLA.  Lots of sports teams, skilled counselors who care, and a sober lifestyle.  Very few boarding offer that -- I have looked.

Believing the massive coverup theory at HLA is like believing that the lunar landing was a hoax.  Too many independent people involved to cover up the truth

Troll Control:
:wstupid:  ::troll::

so i guess you haven't actually DONE any research other than what a single hla parent told you.  good job.

now go back through these threads and read accounts from kids and staff alike including emails detailing sexual assault, attempted suicides, batteries, etc.  what better proof can there be than hla's own INTERNAL EMAILS?

you obviously know nothing about the subject.

Anonymous:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---:wstupid:  ::troll::

so i guess you haven't actually DONE any research other than what a single hla parent told you.  good job.

now go back through these threads and read accounts from kids and staff alike including emails detailing sexual assault, attempted suicides, batteries, etc.  what better proof can there be than hla's own INTERNAL EMAILS?

you obviously know nothing about the subject.
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Agreed.  As always, the trolls who defend HLA base their arguments on 2nd hand accounts of success stories, that they've alledgedley heard from former "alumni" (In reality HLA is run more like a prison , so really former "inmates" would be a far more appropriate term to describe these poor kids).  
Again, I must point out that this TROLL WAS NEVER AT HLA; therefore, they have absolutely NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OR FIRST HAND INFORMATION about the place.

I am an HLA alumni.  I graduated in 2002.  I saw all kinds of abuse during my time at HLA everything from verbal, emotional, and yes, even physical abuse!  I do not feel that HLA helped me at all, in fact, I left HLA even more fucked up than I was before I got there.  The counselors at HLA not skilled, they are not qualified, they do not possess the necessary wisdom or patience required to effectively help the kids placed in their care.  The alledged sports programs are a joke.  The academics at HLA are an even bigger joke.  I was 17 when I graduated HLA, I should have had only 1 more year of highschool to go.  Instead I spent another 2 years highschool, because many of the credits I got at HLA wouldn't transfer.  Not only that, but HLA's academics were way behind those of any normal school, so I spent my first year back in normal highshool taking remedial courses just so I could catch up.  I also had to see a tutor 3 afternoons a week.

You know for all of the money that my parents spent there (well over $100,000), The least HLA could have done was give me a decent  education.  Instead HLA felt it was more important to have me sit in raps and to tell me how worthless I am without them!  Oh and let's not forget all of the sleep deprived emotional work shops they forced me to go through, where they gave me all of these "tools", which coincidently are completely fucking useless to me out here in the real world!  But I guess reality really isn't important to the trolls, is it?  No, they seem far more interested in regurgitating all of the self-grandizing, pro-program bullshit that they "heard about", probably so they can help HLA can con more parents, and swindle them out of their hard earned money!

The troll says parents should listen to HLA alumnis, well I AM AN HLA ALUMNI, and here is what I have to say:  Parents, if you truly want to help your kids (and not just dump them off somewhere so you don't have to deal with), then please, KEEP YOUR KIDS THE HELL AWAY FROM HLA!!!

Anonymous:
The troll says that parents should "ask the graduates" about HLA.
However speaking from personal experience (I was actually a student at HLA, unlike "No Conspiracy"), I know for a fact that only
1 out every 4 kids who get sent to HLA, actually make it to graduation.  In other words, they only have a 25% success rate!
That doesn't sound too promising to me, and I don't thing it would to most parents either.  It's no wonder why HLA conveniently leaves this fact out of their marketing brochures!

Troll Control:

--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---:wstupid:  ::troll::

so i guess you haven't actually DONE any research other than what a single hla parent told you.  good job.

now go back through these threads and read accounts from kids and staff alike including emails detailing sexual assault, attempted suicides, batteries, etc.  what better proof can there be than hla's own INTERNAL EMAILS?

you obviously know nothing about the subject.
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Agreed.  As always, the trolls who defend HLA base their arguments on 2nd hand accounts of success stories, that they've alledgedley heard from former "alumni" (In reality HLA is run more like a prison , so really former "inmates" would be a far more appropriate term to describe these poor kids).  
Again, I must point out that this TROLL WAS NEVER AT HLA; therefore, they have absolutely NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OR FIRST HAND INFORMATION about the place.

I am an HLA alumni.  I graduated in 2002.  I saw all kinds of abuse during my time at HLA everything from verbal, emotional, and yes, even physical abuse!  I do not feel that HLA helped me at all, in fact, I left HLA even more fucked up than I was before I got there.  The counselors at HLA not skilled, they are not qualified, they do not possess the necessary wisdom or patience required to effectively help the kids placed in their care.  The alledged sports programs are a joke.  The academics at HLA are an even bigger joke.  I was 17 when I graduated HLA, I should have had only 1 more year of highschool to go.  Instead I spent another 2 years highschool, because many of the credits I got at HLA wouldn't transfer.  Not only that, but HLA's academics were way behind those of any normal school, so I spent my first year back in normal highshool taking remedial courses just so I could catch up.  I also had to see a tutor 3 afternoons a week.

You know for all of the money that my parents spent there (well over $100,000), The least HLA could have done was give me a decent  education.  Instead HLA felt it was more important to have me sit in raps and to tell me how worthless I am without them!  Oh and let's not forget all of the sleep deprived emotional work shops they forced me to go through, where they gave me all of these "tools", which coincidently are completely fucking useless to me out here in the real world!  But I guess reality really isn't important to the trolls, is it?  No, they seem far more interested in regurgitating all of the self-grandizing, pro-program bullshit that they "heard about", probably so they can help HLA can con more parents, and swindle them out of their hard earned money!

The troll says parents should listen to HLA alumnis, well I AM AN HLA ALUMNI, and here is what I have to say:  Parents, if you truly want to help your kids (and not just dump them off somewhere so you don't have to deal with), then please, KEEP YOUR KIDS THE HELL AWAY FROM HLA!!!
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there you have it - from first-hand experience.

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