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Anonymous:
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--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---IT looks like a swip at the 7-'s headmaster Ed Ledd, by some poor sap that still has issues three decades later. He should see some one about that.
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What's a swip? I meant the entire thread, but once again you're not interested at all in an actual discussion. That seems to be a problem with most of you that support Hyde. You come on here, say a few nasty things, call everyone liars and losers and then run away when pressed for real answers. I've yet to find someone who is willing to just have a dialogue.
Yes, I've got my opinions of Hyde and they're not good, but I don't know all there is to know about it. That's why I ask. I do not believe that's it's helpful or even benign but I'd really like to find out why YOU do and get into specifics about it. If and when you find the guts to do that, let me know.
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There were parts of it that were truely screwed up when I was there. I think some of those things are stil screwed up AFAIKT. My sense is that there is still the impulse to put personallity before principle. I think you can see that manifested in the incestous power structure. The fact that there is no alum measurment of outcomes in the things that Hyde claims it is doing is a clear indication (IMHO) that there is some snake oil in the mix. There has been some real quantitative analysis of the effect of social intervention on a dollar cost/benefit of public spending in human services:
Link
Hyde could do this. But instead it is dropping something on the order of a million a year in fund raising. Which BTW seems to be netting a 1:15 return (good work Mal !) It is really difficult to know what works if you do not measeure outcomes. If you do not know what works and what doesn't you can't improve your process. One of the big "star" poster kids of my era have ended up dead from substance abuse. What went wrong there? There is always an explaination: you did not really get the program, you did not come too terms , etc, etc. If you succeed it is because you got it, if you fail it is because you did not. Which in a way is true, but the "it" my friend is not Hyde.
Yet, from my view point it was a good experience. I was resistant to a lot of the charater innoculations which in a very odd way was one of the biggest charater building experiences of my life. There is so much in life that you really need to "prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet" I learned game face at Hyde and the poem from which I quote:
http://www.bartleby.com/198/1.html
So I am not un unabashed Hyde cheerleader. I do take umbridge, Anne, with people that bash the place and do not know that there is no Bath/Phillipsburg exit off route 1, there is a Bath/Phippsburg exit. I also what you to know that Phippsburg was named after William Phipps the first Royal governor of Massachusetts:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Phips I learned that from a Teacher named Bud.
Niel Loughjizm
Anne Bonney:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---If you've yet to find anyone willing to have a dialogue with you, perhaps you should look at the way you attack anyone and everyone and your crappy persona. Why would anyone want to waste their time in discussion with someone so negative, unpleasant and condescending, unless they are at the same place themselves and just want to share the Hyde-bashing with other ill-informed and angry folks like yourself.
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No, you're lumping me in with everyone on this site. We're not all alike, we don't all carry on conversations the same way.
So, I'm asking. Are you ready or willing to discuss Hyde in a rational manner and answer some questions? If someone else comes along and is an asshole, all you really need to do is not respond to those posts. If you're truly interested in discussing this instead of just running in and calling everyone a bunch of names, you'll find a way to do that.
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
...I also what you to know that Phippsburg was named after William Phipps the first Royal governor of Massachusetts:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Phips I learned that from a Teacher named Bud.
Niel Loughjizm
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...well, that might be due to Maine's actually being part of Massachusetts in the (very) early days... ;->
[I'm guessing you went to school with Bud's daughter Cindy? (sp?)]
-Manny Rivers (2X)
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
...I also what you to know that Phippsburg was named after William Phipps the first Royal governor of Massachusetts:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Phips I learned that from a Teacher named Bud.
Niel Loughjizm
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...well, that might be due to Maine's actually being part of Massachusetts in the (very) early days... ;->
[I'm guessing you went to school with Bud's daughter Cindy? (sp?)]
-Manny Rivers (2X)
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Yes Cindy and Lenny and the girl in the middle who's name I can not pull up at the moment but I can see her in my mind. Any you remember the story of Lenny and the Warren's and Joe?
I remember Cindy singing a song called the "Blue Clister Blues" while waxing her cross country skis.
Niel
Niel
Anonymous:
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
--- Quote from: ""Guest"" ---
...I also what you to know that Phippsburg was named after William Phipps the first Royal governor of Massachusetts:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Phips I learned that from a Teacher named Bud.
Niel Loughjizm
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...well, that might be due to Maine's actually being part of Massachusetts in the (very) early days... ;->
[I'm guessing you went to school with Bud's daughter Cindy? (sp?)]
-Manny Rivers (2X)
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Yes Cindy and Lenny and the girl in the middle who's name I can not pull up at the moment but I can see her in my mind. Any you remember the story of Lenny and the Warren's and Joe?
I remember Cindy singing a song called the "Blue Clister Blues" while waxing her cross country skis.
Niel
Niel
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so sorry, but don't... Do tell?
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