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Anonymous:
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Not rumor, fact.
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Let's hear your "facts", and not "She told me this...", or "I heard that...", or "So and so told me that he...". If you're going to destroy someone's reputation and forbid them from living with or visiting their family, you need a little more than opinions and heresay... enough that you affect their career and livelihood, maybe?
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The FACT is that either he or the school settled a sexual harassment case against him. Are they telling current and propective marks that this guy is frequently on campus? Wouldn't you agree that those parents and kids at the very least have the right to know that?
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This sounds like someone who doesn't want to take responsibility for their own doing. Seems to me that it would be very difficult for someone to affect someone else's career or livelihood unless there was some truth to it.
Anonymous:
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Not rumor, fact.
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Let's hear your "facts", and not "She told me this...", or "I heard that...", or "So and so told me that he...". If you're going to destroy someone's reputation and forbid them from living with or visiting their family, you need a little more than opinions and heresay... enough that you affect their career and livelihood, maybe?
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You talk about destroying someone's reputation and affecting their livelihood and career. Are you saying he should be allowed back to work at Hyde? Should we give him a job coaching girls varsity again so he can give backrubs and cop a feel whenever he can?
What about destroying the reputation of the girl who you say fabricated this story? It is ok for you to attack someone, but not ok for someone on this board to make their own claims? Please tell us if, and how you are related to the Hyde Schools? I am not afraid to say that I am a former student and a friend of a couple of girls who made serious claims while I was at Hyde. One student, (a boy) even confronted Larry in the auditorium in front of the entire school and said, "You make the girls here very uncomfortable and it needs to stop." Hello??? Is this enough for you? Why were these claims not made about other faculty? Where there is smoke, there is fire.
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Still don't see any facts or personal testimonials here. I don't know the girl in question personally, so I can't attest to whether or not she (or her mom) are as disturbed as I hear they are. My point is that it doesn't matter, a disturbed person or a rational one can file a civil lawsuit and wreak havoc on the defendents life, putting them at-risk economically. If you've never been a defendant in a frivolous lawsuit, you don't know what I mean.
So because a "brave" boy confronts Scary Larry in front of the school telling him he makes the girs "uncomfortable", he's now classified a pedophile. Sounds to me like maybe he refused to acknowldege the inappropriateness of some of his behaviors, and now he is in a different line of work. Should he ever work in a position of authority over young girls, probably not. Did Hyde perhaps let things go on longer than they should have. Probably. Did they learn from it. I bet they did. I don;t see where he is in a position to hurt anyone at this point, but if there were any allegations of inappropriate behavior hereforward, I would agree that he probably would and should earn himself a campus ban, regardless of his family ties. But again, I've yet to see/hear any substantive allegations here about his prior behavior, except that he was "creepy". That's not a crime last time I checked...
Anonymous:
Again with the bit about anyone who has a complaint about Hyde is just angry, disgruntled or disturbed. :roll:
Did Hyde make the parents aware of the situation with Larry? Did they inform the parents that a harassment suit had been settled and that Larry would continue to be allowed free access to the campus? Isn't that the very LEAST that Hyde owes the parents and kids?
Anonymous:
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Not rumor, fact.
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Let's hear your "facts", and not "She told me this...", or "I heard that...", or "So and so told me that he...". If you're going to destroy someone's reputation and forbid them from living with or visiting their family, you need a little more than opinions and heresay... enough that you affect their career and livelihood, maybe?
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You talk about destroying someone's reputation and affecting their livelihood and career. Are you saying he should be allowed back to work at Hyde? Should we give him a job coaching girls varsity again so he can give backrubs and cop a feel whenever he can?
What about destroying the reputation of the girl who you say fabricated this story? It is ok for you to attack someone, but not ok for someone on this board to make their own claims? Please tell us if, and how you are related to the Hyde Schools? I am not afraid to say that I am a former student and a friend of a couple of girls who made serious claims while I was at Hyde. One student, (a boy) even confronted Larry in the auditorium in front of the entire school and said, "You make the girls here very uncomfortable and it needs to stop." Hello??? Is this enough for you? Why were these claims not made about other faculty? Where there is smoke, there is fire.
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This reminds me of that politician in Florida who wrote innappropriate emails to underage interns. He is plastered all over the news each day and we don't know that he even touched anyone. This is e-mails only at this point.
According to several people on this site, there is no doubt that the teacher Dubinsky was more than innappropriate with the female students yet some arrogant jerk is trying to disclaim it because there is no physcial proof other than the girls word as well as many students backing it up. A Psychologist once told me that if a kid tells you they have been molested, listen to them. Most kids do not want to come forward when something like this happens which is why it is so under reported.
By the way, the lawsuit posted on http://www.isaccorp.org/ is pretty darn specific. Hard to believe someone would make something up like this. I am not saying it doesn't happen, but I strongly suggest investigating Hyde further before placing a child there.
Anonymous:
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Not rumor, fact.
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Let's hear your "facts", and not "She told me this...", or "I heard that...", or "So and so told me that he...". If you're going to destroy someone's reputation and forbid them from living with or visiting their family, you need a little more than opinions and heresay... enough that you affect their career and livelihood, maybe?
--- End quote ---
You talk about destroying someone's reputation and affecting their livelihood and career. Are you saying he should be allowed back to work at Hyde? Should we give him a job coaching girls varsity again so he can give backrubs and cop a feel whenever he can?
What about destroying the reputation of the girl who you say fabricated this story? It is ok for you to attack someone, but not ok for someone on this board to make their own claims? Please tell us if, and how you are related to the Hyde Schools? I am not afraid to say that I am a former student and a friend of a couple of girls who made serious claims while I was at Hyde. One student, (a boy) even confronted Larry in the auditorium in front of the entire school and said, "You make the girls here very uncomfortable and it needs to stop." Hello??? Is this enough for you? Why were these claims not made about other faculty? Where there is smoke, there is fire.
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This reminds me of that politician in Florida who wrote innappropriate emails to underage interns. He is plastered all over the news each day and we don't know that he even touched anyone. This is e-mails only at this point.
According to several people on this site, there is no doubt that the teacher Dubinsky was more than innappropriate with the female students yet some arrogant jerk is trying to disclaim it because there is no physcial proof other than the girls word as well as many students backing it up. A Psychologist once told me that if a kid tells you they have been molested, listen to them. Most kids do not want to come forward when something like this happens which is why it is so under reported.
By the way, the lawsuit posted on http://www.isaccorp.org/ is pretty darn specific. Hard to believe someone would make something up like this. I am not saying it doesn't happen, but I strongly suggest investigating Hyde further before placing a child there.
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The emails in Florida are proof. The heresay posted here, and even the accusations in the lawsuit are not proof, and may not even be factual. I don't think that asking for some facts or proof makes someone an arrogant jerk. Too many people "interpret" things here to further their own viewpoint and that's why I would call into question accusations made on this site. It goes back to the topic of this post.
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