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« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2006, 02:03:00 PM »
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I just read strugglingteens.  There are three letters to the editor about Hyde.  Two say positive things but the third is very negative about Hyde.  Take a look Tommy."

I was talking about ST's message board. Those LTE's are 2 years old and are just the ones that Woodbury CHOSE to post.

There are a great many questions concerning The Seed that need to be answered. Both the methods of "obtaining" Seedlings and the method of indoctrination need to be aired so that all can see how close 1984 really is.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?Sort=U&topic=13535&forum=8' target='_new'>John Henninger Attorneys and Counselor at Law, Clearwater, FL

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« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2006, 09:46:00 PM »
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On 2006-07-09 18:08:00, Anonymous wrote:



I just read strugglingteens.  There are three letters to the editor about Hyde.  Two say positive things but the third is very negative about Hyde.  Take a look Tommy."


I was talking about ST's message board. Those LTE's are 2 years old and are just the ones that Woodbury CHOSE to post.

There are a great many questions concerning The Seed that need to be answered. Both the methods of "obtaining" Seedlings and the method of indoctrination need to be aired so that all can see how close 1984 really is.
http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?Sort=U&topic=13535&forum=8' target='_new'>John Henninger Attorneys and Counselor at Law, Clearwater, FL

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Does strugglingteens edit posts on the message board?  I didn't get the impression they did.  I've read some pretty critical stuff about Hyde on that board.
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« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2006, 11:03:00 PM »
Here's what happens when sane people try talking on Struggling Trolls.

So you can stop now.
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« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2006, 04:03:10 AM »
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« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2006, 09:42:41 PM »
What do you mean " these facilities"  Hyde is a secondary school, not one of the private lockups your parents sent you to.
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« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2006, 10:04:32 PM »
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What do you mean " these facilities"  Hyde is a secondary school, not one of the private lockups your parents sent you to.


'these facilities" = unregulated troubled teen facilities or... regualted but questionably so...

At least, that' the way the state sees it, as I'm sure do parents since that's how it promotes itself, in part.... incidentally, few facilities actually lock kids up.

LINK here
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« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2006, 07:13:52 AM »
Take a close look at this child's history (the one whose parents sued the school district).  He has obviously struggled a great deal and has a remarkable history of serious psychiatric and substance abuse issues.  He has been treated in many mental health programs.  He ends up at the Hyde School where there wasnt't a single mental health professional on staff.  Isn't it a problem that Hyde accepts students like this without having professional mental health staff?
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« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2006, 09:02:27 AM »
You have a kid that smokes a little dope and tell people to fuck off. Parents send the kid to Hyde.  That does not make Hyde a treatment facility.  Hyde is an accrediated secondary school, not a treatment facility.  Kid like that went to Hyde when I was there along with some very normal kids.  Off hand I could name the children of Senators, State governors decendants of people that every school child knows from fourth grade history.  They were all quite normal.  They were not being treated for anything.  People that have no problems do not check them selves into treatmant facilities.
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« Reply #38 on: July 23, 2006, 11:17:05 AM »
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You have a kid that smokes a little dope and tell people to fuck off. Parents send the kid to Hyde.  That does not make Hyde a treatment facility.  Hyde is an accrediated secondary school, not a treatment facility.  Kid like that went to Hyde when I was there along with some very normal kids.  Off hand I could name the children of Senators, State governors decendants of people that every school child knows from fourth grade history.  They were all quite normal.  They were not being treated for anything.  People that have no problems do not check them selves into treatmant facilities.


You're right, Hyde is not a treatment facility.  It doesn't believe in offering mental health services.  Every kid's problem at Hyde is an "attitude" and "character" problem.  Why, then, is Hyde willing to accept an enormous number of kids with incredibly complicated psychiatric histories and challenges?  It's a documented fact that Hyde accepts these kids, many of whom then have difficulty staying out of trouble at Hyde.  Now, isn't that a surprise?  Take a kid with major mental health problems, put him/her in a school that offers no mental health services, impose lots of pressure on the kid with a heavy does of shame and finger pointing (and Joe Gauld's special brand of humiliation), and watch the kid threaten to run away, engage in conflict with staff and other students, get placed on 2-4, use drugs, get sent to out-post, etc.  Does that sound like a good model to you?  Is this the right way to treat this huge portion of Hyde's student body????
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« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2006, 03:04:02 PM »
Worked for me.
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« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2006, 05:56:24 PM »
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What do you mean " these facilities"  Hyde is a secondary school, not one of the private lockups your parents sent you to.

'these facilities" = unregulated troubled teen facilities or... regualted but questionably so...

At least, that' the way the state sees it, as I'm sure do parents since that's how it promotes itself, in part.... incidentally, few facilities actually lock kids up.

LINK here


Secondary School?  Are you kidding me?  I am not sure what Hyde is but it certainly does not operate like a regular school, and the scholastics are pathetic if not non existent!  Had to laugh when I saw something about Laura Gauld graduating with honors.  Honors at Hyde is equivalent to Special Ed in a regular school.  Now maybe I am exaggerating a little, but seriously Hyde has ruined many kids lives when trying to get back into the regular public school system. I had one friend who tried to get into a private school and the admissions people told her parents that even though Hyde said she was an honor student, she did not have the basic skills for the grade she was in at Hyde.

When I left Hyde and tried to go back to school in my hometown, the public school wanted me to stay back a grade because the courses at Hyde were not accepted by my public school system.  Hyde had already kept me back a year so this would mean I would be two years behind.  I think it is very important for incoming parents to understand that Hyde's courses might not be accepted in your hometown and can easily mess up future plans unless you plan on staying at Hyde and graduating from Hyde.  Going to college is another tough experience after having a Hyde education.  Many kids fail their first year in college and drop out because you cannot compare the courses at Hyde to regular schools. Yes there are some kids who might succeed in college after Hyde, but there are plenty more who fail or dropout.  

Before enrolling your kids in Hyde, ask how many kids who start Hyde, finish Hyde.  Also more importantly ask for stats on how many kids who are accepted to college are still in college after the first year.

Oh yeah, some of you will say it must have been my own fault for failing a grade at Hyde, but for those of you who are not aware, Hyde does not always fail you for bad grades.  Hyde fails a student for many other reasons including that they don't think your "attitude" is what they want it to be or because Joe Gauld wants another year of your parents money.  Trust me, I am telling the truth here and I think some other kids who went to Hyde will support this.

Hyde has a lot of learning to do and my suggestion to Hyde is to get rid of the old administration and get some new blood in there. Why can they not keep good teachers at Hyde?  Why do so many teachers leaving after a year or two?
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« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2006, 09:13:48 PM »
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What do you mean " these facilities"  Hyde is a secondary school, not one of the private lockups your parents sent you to.

'these facilities" = unregulated troubled teen facilities or... regualted but questionably so...

At least, that' the way the state sees it, as I'm sure do parents since that's how it promotes itself, in part.... incidentally, few facilities actually lock kids up.

LINK here

Secondary School?  Are you kidding me?  I am not sure what Hyde is but it certainly does not operate like a regular school, and the scholastics are pathetic if not non existent!  Had to laugh when I saw something about Laura Gauld graduating with honors.  Honors at Hyde is equivalent to Special Ed in a regular school.  Now maybe I am exaggerating a little, but seriously Hyde has ruined many kids lives when trying to get back into the regular public school system. I had one friend who tried to get into a private school and the admissions people told her parents that even though Hyde said she was an honor student, she did not have the basic skills for the grade she was in at Hyde.

When I left Hyde and tried to go back to school in my hometown, the public school wanted me to stay back a grade because the courses at Hyde were not accepted by my public school system.  Hyde had already kept me back a year so this would mean I would be two years behind.  I think it is very important for incoming parents to understand that Hyde's courses might not be accepted in your hometown and can easily mess up future plans unless you plan on staying at Hyde and graduating from Hyde.  Going to college is another tough experience after having a Hyde education.  Many kids fail their first year in college and drop out because you cannot compare the courses at Hyde to regular schools. Yes there are some kids who might succeed in college after Hyde, but there are plenty more who fail or dropout.  

Before enrolling your kids in Hyde, ask how many kids who start Hyde, finish Hyde.  Also more importantly ask for stats on how many kids who are accepted to college are still in college after the first year.

Oh yeah, some of you will say it must have been my own fault for failing a grade at Hyde, but for those of you who are not aware, Hyde does not always fail you for bad grades.  Hyde fails a student for many other reasons including that they don't think your "attitude" is what they want it to be or because Joe Gauld wants another year of your parents money.  Trust me, I am telling the truth here and I think some other kids who went to Hyde will support this.

Hyde has a lot of learning to do and my suggestion to Hyde is to get rid of the old administration and get some new blood in there. Why can they not keep good teachers at Hyde?  Why do so many teachers leaving after a year or two?


I hope you have had a good experience since Hyde.  Like you, I had a horrible experience at Hyde.  The education was real weak and most of the teachers would have a real hard time getting a job at a regular school.  My impression was that most of the Hyde staff were pretty troubled people themselves.  

I was also upset that so many of the students had serious emotional and mental health problems and I didn't think they were getting the help they needed.  All the 2-4's and 5:30's in the world aren't going to help a student who's having a hard time because she was molested as a kid and is real depressed, or a kid who has a serious drug problem and has a serious anxiety problem.  Now that I've been out of Hyde for a couple of years I have a much clearer understanding of what a bad environment it is for so many students.  I hope parents learn that about Hyde before they send their kid there.
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« Reply #42 on: July 24, 2006, 06:58:24 AM »
I graduated magna cum from the engineering school at one of the top ten public universities in the US.  This would not have been possible had I not attended Hyde.
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« Reply #43 on: July 24, 2006, 08:29:58 PM »
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I graduated magna cum from the engineering school at one of the top ten public universities in the US.  This would not have been possible had I not attended Hyde.


That's great that Hyde worked for you.  Based on my extensive experience with Hyde, only a minority of students have this kind of good outcome.  Based on the high drop-out rate from Hyde (people who leave in disgust, drop out, run away, look for better alternatives) and the small percentage of people who actually start Hyde and graduate from the school, your path is truly the exception.  I'm happy for you, but I wouldn't dare conclude that your experience is anything close to typical at Hyde.
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« Reply #44 on: July 24, 2006, 08:34:34 PM »
Your mom got some magna cum.
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