On 2003-01-20 15:27:00, Anonymous wrote: "So, is there any chance that some of these institutions while being private nevertheless had residents placed ther under contract to the state authority. If the State knew or ought to have known of the abuse ..... ? " |
Anonymous, please feel free to come out and discuss this with me person to person on this board. I encourage a dialogue where we calmly explore factual effective ways to affect change today. Tomorrow is too late.
Referring back to your paragaraph above, are we now talking about something else other than suing straight and or bringing criminal charges against the seed/straight and the individuals involved?
I am going to ask you to clarify this sentence:
"So, is there any chance that some of these institutions while being private nevertheless had residents placed ther under contract to the state authority." Are you suggesting that Straight Inc. had a contract with a state agency to place residents?
I am sorry, but your question is not clear. It is not my understanding that the state had a contract to place individuals in straight but rather it was a function of the judgement of individual judges. Proving that these judges knew or should have known about the abuse AND proving that THEY withheld this information from the court to protect themselves from prosecution during the tenure of your 4 year statute of limitation to Sue the state is a high mountain to climb indeed.
The other alternative would be to sue HRS as the lady did in the case cited. It would have to be demonstrated that HRS knew of the abuse and Hid it from the court for the purpose of avoiding prosecution during the tenure of the statute of limitations that applies to the state (4 years proceeding the alleged abuse). Do you have evidence they did this? If so, let us hear about it. What I have read is not indicitive of this but rather indicates that HRS was forthcoming with their information about straight.
If you know of an alternate set of circumstances than the one I outlined above, lay it out and lets discuss it.
Irrespective, the statute of limitations would still apply to any actions of Straight, Inc and the individuals involved.
If you are further suggesting suing the state under case law set by the case cited, you are going to have to demonstrate that the state withheld information from the court for the purpose of preventing prosecution in your individual case during the tenure of time that the statute of limitations was running. You are also going to have to demonstrate to the court a legal reason why you waited xx numer of years after your age of majority to bring the case to the courts attention. I would defer this question to Fuelaw for further clarification as he is the real expert here and please remember I am talking about Florida here. I haven't the time or energy to look at other states.
Is it possible that a florida court would throw out the statute of limitations for officers and directors of Straight, Inc. for alleged crimes 20 years ago? Is it possible that the State would entertain waiving the states' immunity from prosecution in this instance? Not in my estimation. To me there are other more realistic effective ways to focus my efforts, If you think you can accomplish this herculean task, by all means have at it. I would suggest, however, that you go into it with your eyes open.
When the government's boot is on your throat, whether it is a left boot or a right boot is of no consequence.
-- Gary Lloyd