Treatment Abuse, Behavior Modification, Thought Reform > World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASPS)
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Irish Mom:
--- Quote ---On 2006-06-26 20:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Yep, you explained you more-or-less stayed for the money, and that you don't come forward to protect the kids still beging abused there, because--why was it? You're protecting your own kid. Think that was it, huh concerned MOM?"
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Oh yeah...I stayed for the money. What a laugh! Since you work there you should know that the money sucks! If you work group living you only make around $7.50 an hour, and for the work that's expected of you that's nothing. Besides, I never said I stayed for the money.
What do you mean I'm "protecting my own kid"? Isn't that what parents are supposed to do? Oh wait that's only when you DON'T put your kids in a place like Spring Creek. By the way, what have you done lately to protect the kids still being abused there? You have no idea what I'm doing about it so shut the fuck up.
Geez, for a person that isn't a program grad and isn't an SCL employee you sure seem to know a lot about how the program runs and who it's staff are...hmmm...I still think you're a fucking troll or someone still working there...same thing.
Why is it that the ones that talk so much shit on here and are so critical of others always post anonymously. Makes ya wonder. :???:
Irish Mom:
--- Quote ---On 2006-06-26 20:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-06-26 16:31:00, Irish Mom wrote:
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On 2006-06-26 14:02:00, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2006-06-26 09:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You must have missed this post by a former SCL employee. Fact is, they drop kids for financial and arbitrary reasons, nice try, though. :wave:
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On 2006-06-24 23:01:00, Irish Mom wrote:
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On 2006-06-24 22:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
"To the Anon poster who seems to know how the WWASP programs operate:
Would adult staff make the decision to drop a Jr. Staff back down to level l ?"
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This is also a tactic used to keep kids in the program longer and milk their folks for more money. I've seen kids hit level 6 and be dropped for a totally bogus reason. Some Family Reps are notorious for this, because they get a bonus depending upon their numbers. Cliff Payne is the biggest ass about doing this. He gets off on the power he has to do this at his whim."
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Maybe she's a former employee because she doesn't have a clue. Was she fired? Why did she work there for a year if she thought it was so awful? Cliff P. wasn't even a family rep. "
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Just because I'm a former employee doesn't mean I was fired and how do you know how long I was or wasn't there unless this is someone who still works there just being an asshole troll? I've also explained before why I stayed as long as I did and I don't feel I need to justify it to someone that posts anonymously. Why don't you come out and say who you are?
Anyway, I never said Cliff was a Family Rep. I said he was the biggest ass for dropping kids for no reason. You, as the SCL employee that I think you are, should know this. The kids are afraid of crossing the "little red faced prick" as he is known to them, for fear of getting dropped.
Crawl back under your bridge ya nasty troll!"
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Were you this vindictive to the kids? Tsk, tsk."
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Want to explain what was "vindictive" about anything I said? What's the matter, can't handle a little truth about your employer?
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-06-26 20:41:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Yep, you explained you more-or-less stayed for the money, and that you don't come forward to protect the kids still beging abused there, because--why was it? You're protecting your own kid. Think that was it, huh concerned MOM?"
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Nah, IM already admitted she tried to get the kids to tell her they were abused, but they wouldn't. Not to be too simplistic, but maybe it's because they aren't abused.
StellerJay:
The simple fact that this kid was beaten by other children at SCL shows that some (maybe all?) of the kids are most likely being abused. Staff should have been on top of it--I have worked with adults and youth who are extremely mentally ill, and we NEVER had an incident remotely like this, even when we were short staffed. If staff do their job, do it right and keep these kids safe, the chance of someone being beaten is preventable. TROLL/ANON: even you cant deny that staff were not doing their job. Responsiblity is to be taken even if they were 'not in the room' when this happened (which I doubt). And by the way, we are talking about the boy and his family, not what kind of a person IM is--she's proven herself and her intentions here plenty of times so give it up.
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-06-27 08:26:00, StellerJay wrote:
"The simple fact that this kid was beaten by other children at SCL shows that some (maybe all?) of the kids are most likely being abused. Staff should have been on top of it--I have worked with adults and youth who are extremely mentally ill, and we NEVER had an incident remotely like this, even when we were short staffed. If staff do their job, do it right and keep these kids safe, the chance of someone being beaten is preventable. TROLL/ANON: even you cant deny that staff were not doing their job. Responsiblity is to be taken even if they were 'not in the room' when this happened (which I doubt). And by the way, we are talking about the boy and his family, not what kind of a person IM is--she's proven herself and her intentions here plenty of times so give it up."
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An incident between kids proves they're all being abused by adults? Now that's an extraordinary line of reasoning.
Staff were not doing their job? An even more impressive conclusion, considering the lack of available information.
There is no way to know what kind of person IM is, or if anything she (?) claims is true; a user name does not cast off anonymity or bestow authority.
Your own experience with "extremely mentally ill" people may not even be relevant, because it isn't established that these kids are mentally ill.
I guess the big question is, with folks like you who can garner so much wisdom from so few facts, why do we bother with archaic institutions like the justice system?
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