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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-06-26 06:19:00, Three Springs Waygookin wrote:
"I heard and did it myself where kids were tested via various schemes at Three Springs,but never were they deprived of a level. I have to agree with CCM whole heartedly in her assesment that dropping a kid a level can lead to some pretty extreme reactions.
Pretty damn sick.
Always try to do things in chronological order; it's less confusing that way.
--Unknown
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And the assumption, as usual, is that it was done TO the kid, not BY the kid. How pathetic that so many people consider these kids helpless. That, by the way, is what lands them in trouble at home.
Reality: No one "drops" anyone; kids make poor choices, and lose points for it. It's expected, because even when kids have learned enough to succeed and get on upper levels, they'll test the waters. That's a good thing. The program's upper levels provide a safe place to make some mistakes, and then see what you learn from it. It's just not all that sinister.
Usually, an upper level student who drops will spend only a short time on lower levels because they already understand the tenets of accountability. Once they recognize what choices they made and what they might have done differently, staff, therapists, and teachers support having them returned to upper levels.
Anonymous:
You must have missed this post by a former SCL employee. Fact is, they drop kids for financial and arbitrary reasons, nice try, though. :wave:
--- Quote ---On 2006-06-24 23:01:00, Irish Mom wrote:
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On 2006-06-24 22:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
"To the Anon poster who seems to know how the WWASP programs operate:
Would adult staff make the decision to drop a Jr. Staff back down to level l ?"
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This is also a tactic used to keep kids in the program longer and milk their folks for more money. I've seen kids hit level 6 and be dropped for a totally bogus reason. Some Family Reps are notorious for this, because they get a bonus depending upon their numbers. Cliff Payne is the biggest ass about doing this. He gets off on the power he has to do this at his whim."
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Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-06-26 08:07:00, Anonymous wrote:
And the assumption, as usual, is that it was done TO the kid, not BY the kid. How pathetic that so many people consider these kids helpless. That, by the way, is what lands them in trouble at home.
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::troll::
Anonymous:
--- Quote ---On 2006-06-26 09:25:00, Anonymous wrote:
"You must have missed this post by a former SCL employee. Fact is, they drop kids for financial and arbitrary reasons, nice try, though. :wave:
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On 2006-06-24 23:01:00, Irish Mom wrote:
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On 2006-06-24 22:38:00, Anonymous wrote:
"To the Anon poster who seems to know how the WWASP programs operate:
Would adult staff make the decision to drop a Jr. Staff back down to level l ?"
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This is also a tactic used to keep kids in the program longer and milk their folks for more money. I've seen kids hit level 6 and be dropped for a totally bogus reason. Some Family Reps are notorious for this, because they get a bonus depending upon their numbers. Cliff Payne is the biggest ass about doing this. He gets off on the power he has to do this at his whim."
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Maybe she's a former employee because she doesn't have a clue. Was she fired? Why did she work there for a year if she thought it was so awful? Cliff P. wasn't even a family rep.
Anonymous:
Several upper level kids have confirmed now that they witnessed several staff using crstal methempetamine.
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