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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2006, 08:14:00 PM »
Outward Bound should stick to the adventure education business and stay the fuck away from the adjudicated youth or troubled teen business. Their voluntary youth programs have an excellent track record as do the other programs for adults.
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2006, 08:17:00 PM »
Oh please, there have been deaths at wilderness therapy programs and ed cons and referral agents kept sending kids.  In the Obsidian Trails restraint related death, parents actually wrote positive statements about OT, saying they felt the death, tragic as it was, was not the fault of OT.  The Outward Bound Wilderness trips are voluntary, the kids can most certainly leave and they DO NOT accept adjudicated or troubled teens.
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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2006, 08:21:00 PM »
"I can tell you this does not appear to be any type of traumatic death," Pellan said. "This looks like a medical cause."

A spokeswoman for All Children's Hospital declined to discuss details of the case, citing confidentiality laws.

Peak was "treated and discharged appropriately" from the DeSoto County hospital, said that hospital's spokeswoman, Annie Curnow.

"I can tell you that an array of tests were run," she said.

Outward Bound two weeks ago brought in environmental health specialists to evaluate the center and a campground where the boys had canoed earlier in the summer, Howard confirmed.

No public health risk has been found.

A check with the Centers for Disease Control shows that both strep and encephalitis infections can become severe and fatal.

Some 2 million cases of strep infection are reported each year, but only 9,000 cases are considered severe enough to be life-threatening, according to a report on the CDC's Web site.

Another CDC report indicates that encephalitis, which is borne by mosquitoes, can occur after or in combination with an unrelated infection.

Since Dillon's hospitalization, the Peace River facility moved boys from tents, which have wooden floors and house up to six campers, into dormitories, Howard said.

However, some of the boys may be moved back into the tents soon, once reports on environmental health are completed, he said.

The Peace River Outward Bound program is one of five juvenile rehabilitation programs operated by the contractor, Hurricane Island Outward Bound, based in Tallahassee.

The local facility is one of 10 residential facilities for low-risk juvenile offenders in the state. Low-risk offenders are typically those who have committed crimes no more serious than third-degree felonies.

The 35-bed Peace River facility currently houses 20 students and employs 25 staffers.

Typically, the facility's program takes six months to complete, but some boys take as long as a year, Howard said.


By GREG MARTIN

Staff Writer

Full Article Here

http://www.sun-herald.com/NewsArchive2/ ... tp2ch5.htm
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2006, 08:24:00 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2006, 08:25:00 PM »
Hope the hospital didn't screw up.  

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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2006, 08:38:00 PM »
You mis-speak: Outward Bound DOES take court-appointed kids.  READ!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2006, 09:09:00 PM »
These programs DO NOT TAKE adjudicated youth.  You are confusing the Intercept and Juvenile Justice Outward Bound Programs with these which are purely educational-adventure programs. Please try to see there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE.

http://outwardboundwilderness.org/age/youth.html
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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2006, 09:09:00 PM »
Yes, that is correct.  They DO NOT.
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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2006, 09:14:00 PM »
Hurricane Outward Bound is NOT THE SAME as these programs.  Hurricane Outward Bound is part of the Juvenile Justice System in Florida.  The other programs (as shown below) are totally different and not part of any juvenile justice program.  Get it?

http://outwardboundwilderness.org/age/youth.html
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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2006, 09:20:00 PM »
This wasn't a restraint death like Mikey Wiltsie at Eckherd which runs adjudicated wilderness programs in Florida also.  Wait for the autopsy.  It may turn out as the news article suggested.
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« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2006, 11:37:00 PM »
think what I "get" is, if parent want their kids to go camping and hiking and possbily be safe, then the parents should take the kids THEMSELVES!
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« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2006, 04:45:00 PM »
Gee, that makes too much sense.

As for mental health treatment:  whenever anyone is hospitalized, even when it is forced ( in California, at least)the first thing they are given is a list of their patient rights.  Then, if the hospital wants to keep them longer than two weeks they are entitled to a court hearing and are assigned a representative.  If they end up being conserved then they are assigned a conservator who can be a family member to represent the patient and their rights.  A far cry from what the TBS' follow
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« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2006, 08:09:00 PM »
The solution is the liquid part after the precipitate has settled out.

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« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2006, 10:10:00 PM »
The solution is a jeep, a crate of MREs, an ammo box, and a deer hunting rifle.
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