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When did adoelscence become a pathology
Anonymous:
Okay - you asked about what people thought....
I agree that there are a lot of chicken sh-- parents out there who are looking for a quick fix and thus are lulled into a sense of relief by the politicians looking for a vote and the scheisters (or however you spell that) looking for a buck.
However, there are too parents that are terrified that the next time their kid sneaks out and does something dangerous or stupid that it won't be the other kid's parent at the door the next morning or even the police with the kid in tow, but the police with no one in tow and it's time to visit the morgue.
I don't know how I would live would myself if keeping my son in this neighborhood--fully believing that he's currently dealing drugs to his friends--leads to one of his friends overdosing. How do I face that mother, my neighbor, my friend... I'm not talking about embarrassment here - we've all got warts - I'm talking about my responsibility to my community.
We have tried psychiatric help, family therapy, individual therapy, intensive outpatient treatment, short term residential treatment... you name it. We have been trying this for years! I am not a whiner... I know this sh-- is hard and we've been working it hard, but now he's stealing from his 9 year old sister!
I wholeheartedly agree that the fact that there is a "troubled teen" industry is messed up on several levels and that many parents need to lighten up a lot about what is and is not pathology. At the same time, the reason that those programs are there in the first place is that there are a lot of us out desparate for help.
I am not a quitter in this - the reasons I'm investigating a wilderness experience are not becuase I've bought a bill of goods from a program or my politicians (I'm from Texas and they're all full of cr-p anyway). I love my son. He's an amazing kid... and I'm terrified.
Just thought I'd throw that in...
Anonymous:
I doubt that you are for real.
Assuming you are, the next logical step is either serious psychiatric help in a state mental hospital, or just let him get arrested. Either alternative is less harmful.
What does he say when you talk to him about these things?
AtomicAnt:
--- Quote ---On 2006-06-15 18:40:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Okay - you asked about what people thought....
I agree that there are a lot of chicken sh-- parents out there who are looking for a quick fix and thus are lulled into a sense of relief by the politicians looking for a vote and the scheisters (or however you spell that) looking for a buck.
However, there are too parents that are terrified that the next time their kid sneaks out and does something dangerous or stupid that it won't be the other kid's parent at the door the next morning or even the police with the kid in tow, but the police with no one in tow and it's time to visit the morgue.
I don't know how I would live would myself if keeping my son in this neighborhood--fully believing that he's currently dealing drugs to his friends--leads to one of his friends overdosing. How do I face that mother, my neighbor, my friend... I'm not talking about embarrassment here - we've all got warts - I'm talking about my responsibility to my community.
We have tried psychiatric help, family therapy, individual therapy, intensive outpatient treatment, short term residential treatment... you name it. We have been trying this for years! I am not a whiner... I know this sh-- is hard and we've been working it hard, but now he's stealing from his 9 year old sister!
I wholeheartedly agree that the fact that there is a "troubled teen" industry is messed up on several levels and that many parents need to lighten up a lot about what is and is not pathology. At the same time, the reason that those programs are there in the first place is that there are a lot of us out desparate for help.
I am not a quitter in this - the reasons I'm investigating a wilderness experience are not becuase I've bought a bill of goods from a program or my politicians (I'm from Texas and they're all full of cr-p anyway). I love my son. He's an amazing kid... and I'm terrified.
Just thought I'd throw that in..."
--- End quote ---
If I caught my kid selling drugs to other kids, and I could not get him to stop, I'd be the first one to call the police and help them set up the bust. A program would still never be an option.
In fact, I'd try to figure out who my kid's supplier was so I could have the police take them down, too.
Anonymous:
I believe you and i am sorry about your son. It sounds like his problems go way beyond being a normal teenager or just experimenting. Any one in your shoes would be worried sick. It sounds like your kid needs to be in an environment which treats this issue medically first and then with some kind of proper rehab couselling. Why look @ wilderness programmes? Why not put proper doctors in charge of the boy? It sounds like he is dealing and stealing to support a habit. Deal with the medical issues and get him the follow up counselling in a proper non abusive residental medical facility. While he is living there call him and write him often. If you can visit often. Do not send him any place that limits family contact or sends the message that he no longer deserves family support. Many websites for wild therapy advertise the idea that in the beginning the right to communication is denied with the implication that this needs to be earned back. Then when he is rehabilitated clip him about the ear for stealing from his little sister. Wilderness therapy websites really agressively market to parents who are worried sick. They dont care what the worry is.
Deborah:
--- Quote ---On 2006-06-15 18:40:00, Anonymous wrote:
"Okay - you asked about what people thought....
I agree that there are a lot of chicken sh-- parents out there who are looking for a quick fix and thus are lulled into a sense of relief by the politicians looking for a vote and the scheisters (or however you spell that) looking for a buck.
However, there are too parents that are terrified that the next time their kid sneaks out and does something dangerous or stupid that it won't be the other kid's parent at the door the next morning or even the police with the kid in tow, but the police with no one in tow and it's time to visit the morgue.
--- End quote ---
wah,wah,wah. Stop with the pathetic, oh me, I'm totally fucking helpless pattern/habit. How the fuck is your kid getting out?
Ya know what my parents did? They planted Pyracantha bushes by the windows of mine and my sister's rooms. They don't call it "firethorn" for nothin. Pyracantha is the terrified parent's friend, get to know her. Ain't NObody coming in OR goin out. By the way, they NEVER mentioned why they 'chose' pyrachanta bushes, and as kids, it never ocurred to us that it was intentional. We thought they chose it for the pretty red berries. Hah!
They also took the springs off the garage door, cut out a window and door, painted the floor, let us decorate with flourescent flowers, installed a black light, put in a record player and a pool table. They rarely had to wonder where we were. And all the neighborhood parents knew where THEIR kids were.
Parents have SO many options other that a friggin program.
[ This Message was edited by: Deborah on 2006-06-16 21:04 ]
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