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Population increase
Anonymous:
Okay.. Lets look at this post, although little here is even worth response:
--- Quote from: ""EIGHTY 2"" ---I have never seen so many people in need of therapy since i was a kid in daytop. So miserable and sadly inappropriate.
You say that the posters here are miserable. What leads you to this conclusion?
You also say that the posters here are "sadly inappropriate". (lol)
Inappropriate to what? We are in a message board- not a Daytop facility. What exactly do you consider appropriate as you go on calling people miserable and babies? Can you give some examples of where we are so sadly innappropriate as opposed to your highly classful remarks?
i originally came to see about old friends and all i see is BS.
cut the crap grow up & find someone else to pick on punks,
lol.. we are punks and you are foaming at the mouth right now, but somehow we are sadly innappropriate. You are obviously still thinking in the terms of a Daytop model which decrees what is appropriate and what is okay, with no reflecting upon reality. In other words, your ideas are sadly out of context, and I truly do mean sadly
especially st john, u phony, learn how to spell, go back to school & therapy, you'd be better off, you are a fool.
Oh goody ! I even get specail mention! I know how to spell. Most often, I have very little time to write my posts. I write them once, and in a mad hurry, and then post 'em. I hope that most people can understand my posts reguardless of a mispelled word, or a word out of place.
You tell me " go back to therapy"..
You really are a dumbass, ain't ya? Yup Daytop was great. Therapy is a for all cure all, and we all need it as though it existed before humanity itself, as though it is an integral part of human existence.. just another way in which Daytop sucks everything out of a realitic context. BTW, you have learned their trade well.
and your next almost random ranting, is that I am a fool. Oh, that is great. can you tell me how I am a fool, or why I am a fool?
or are you actually the fool? I put this in the form of a question, but in actuality I know that you are a fool. :)
cut the crap & grow up u bunch of 5yr old babies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are on the right track! Just yell that at me about 1,000 more times, and I think I will be cured, have a positive self-esteem, and never touch a drug so long as I live
In 1982 treatment sucked, but that was because i was a selfish punk, who needed to get a good ass kicking.
Sounds like an abused child who believes he's deserves his beatings. Why not admit it here and now? they crushed you. They broke your spirit. You didn t belive that when you went in there. They convinced you of it.
and where you selfish or self interested?
Treatment helped because it was better than jail or dying in the street,
You seem to be saying that for everyone person who ever went into a Daytop facility, there were only three alternatives in life:
1) Daytop, or as you refer to it "treatment", or as I will refer to as "bad treatment"
2)Jail
3) Dying in the street
There could be no more false or ridiculous statement. Hopefully you have enough of a brain left in your head that I do not need to explain this any further.
grow up & face the facts, there are many way worse places than DAYTOP, FOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLSSSS!!!!!!
Sure there are. So what?
Oh and please keep those exclamations of what we fools we all are coming. i think that it is going to bring us all to positive growth experience very soon. There is nothing like degrading comments to help the healing process.. Again, you have masterred their craft very well.
Oh & by the way, I have a masters in social work, a license to practice social work, teach college and have over twenty years in the field
Oh and by the way, I don't give a shit. Credentails don't do the job. You wanna make points, make points, and then back them up. A piece of paper on your wall does not make you any kind of all knowing athority to me, nor should it to anyone
. Good luck jerks, go get laid or something!!
At least you are consistent. You started the post out like a prick, and ended it on the same note
Paul St. John
--- End quote ---
Anonymous:
Good Day Mr. St. John,
I claim the world is flat, elephants are pink, the holocaust never happened, I own the Brooklyn Bridge, and you are correct. Anyone can claim anything. Some have posted wild claims and we are supposed to accept this as fact. You can if you want. I argued and proved that Daytop and TC?s are effective. Research has been performed and the results were documented. That is what I was asked to do. Oh, yes you can find research that claims the opposite. The overall benefit is in the individuals who participated in the programs and are today productive individuals. Some have had set backs some have not. The principals are to be honest with yourself and others. Also take responsibility for your actions and decisions, Set goals and work towards accomplishing them, stay substance free, and try to help others. These are very logical and relevant. Many individuals who have posted on this site are the evidence of the programs success as well as there failure. You seem to enjoy lecturing to individuals about standards you set with regard to what is success. I have asked many people who have posted on this site to define success. No one has so I ask you to define it. In addition any individual who participates in treatment needs support and encouragement. MY argument is and has been that if people posting on this site disagree with the TC or Daytop programs then offer alternatives. I have yet to see anyone suggest a specific program or form of treatment. Again the issue is with alternatives. Daytop is one and they are effective in what they do. They have evolved and changed in many ways. This process of change is one that is ongoing. They are working to help people and that is what they are doing regardless of what you tend to spew in your postings. Why are you so negative and derogatory? Do you have some things you need to process? :roll: :idea: As for Eighty 8, don?t stop fighting for what you believe
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Oh geez. Now there's two of these dum-dums? "Honesty" and "82" are two half-witted mouth-breathers. It has nothing at all to do with Daytop. They're just not very bright.
"82" is a poser and a wanna-be. He is not an LCSW. He's not an L-anything. He likes to pretend he is so that people who read his nonsensical (and oh-so-clinically-wrong) rants might give him a little more clout than they otherwise would or should. But make no mistake; this guy has never seen the inside of an institution of higher learning.
This is a simple story told exremely effectively by his abjectly poor impression of a professional with a degree. He can't construct a sentence, much less a thought, in that drug-addled brain of his and yet he's attempting to pass himself off as intelligencia. Riiiiight. "Honesty" has a bridge to sell you, "82."
What a couple of dopes.
Anonymous:
Your so deep! When I was drinking the purple beverage -base, (kool-aid) in the 80's, I watched sadly, as fools like you ran away. Grow up & get help! How can you be so stuck on promoting BS?
Here I sit alone & confused wondering what has happened, alone on this cold & unfeeling chair, asking myself why.......Please spare us the drama of cutting & pasting, I have to get to my GED class.
Eat some turkey & have fun, care about you/love ya! hows bout a reach out?
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This guy is as sharp as a marble.
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